Shelby Houlihan BANNED for 4 years

c7runner7 wrote:

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

BTW: I eat a pound of either beef, pork, boar, or elk five days a week. I eat burritos and tacos from taco trucks located not 90 miles from Mexico. I eat tacos and burritos in Tijuana.

Test me. You'll find weed in my bloodstream, DHEA, and a few other OTC vitamins.

Prove to me someone tested positive from eating "tainted meat" and I'll pay you $500. Shelby is a cheating doping idiot.

What? So you're argument is "i'd test postitive, but she shouldn't. DHEA is banned out of competition

I don't compete, and didn't say I'd test positive for Nandrowhatever, because I don't eat three pigs a week, like Shelby would have to do.

Cancun Cruz wrote:

The biggest tragedy for me right now is that someone like Houlihan gets ruined by this (regardless of whether she's actually guilty or not), and yet I'm supposed to believe that Hassan is clean as a whistle...

Hassan is at least suspicious. Tsegay looks doped to the gills since a year. Kipyegon actually looks the most believeable if i had to bet

I’m just wondering about Gwen... everyone else has commented and shown support on the BTC girl side for Shelby, except for Gwen???

Hassan's blood can fuel an automobile it is so chemically altered.

astro wrote:

Hassan's blood can fuel an automobile it is so chemically altered.

Hassan, like Rupp, flew too close to Salazar. They're both doing something wrong, in my opinion.

BTC was very hard on Oregon Project and Salazar when Alberto received a 4 year ban. The members of that group were very self righteous not only criticizing Alberto but making inferences that Galen Rupp was a cheat even though he never tested positive for anything. So be it. Now one of their athletes test positive and we are suppose to believe their denials. And that their star athlete is a victim. Hypocrisy.

Oh Please wrote:

It is also quite funny the coach pretends to not know nandrolone. I know it, and I'm a 47 year old guy that has never participated in organized sports including track. He should be banned for that lie. Let me guess, he is also unaware of HGH and EPO, right?

Karissa S. also claimed on her IG that they had to look it up as they had never heard of it. Either

a. Athletes and coaches aren't very well educated or

b. Nike is on point with their consistent messaging.

You choose.

Cancun Cruz wrote:

For those who think she's guilty or others who are willing to entertain the possibility, how do you think she went about obtaining the drugs? Who supplied them to her? Would she have sought them out (from whom?), or do you think someone approached her (and again, who)? I'm curious about how this would have actually gone down logistically. For the sake of the argument, let's assume Jerry and Shalane were completely out of the loop.

My guess, they are supplied by Nike, the dirties company on the planet.

The Dirty Duck wrote:

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Ah the americans are out in force supporting their athletes funny stories. They all have them. Wilson, coleman, gatlin, houlihan and many more. Meat, kissing and they are supported by corrupt usa

Have you read this thread? At least 90% of us think she's guilty. A good many of us smelled a rat when the bizarre story broke about her time trial two weeks ago.

Definitely guilty. With a lame excuse. The number of her naive Instagram supporters who are so shocked and in denial is laughable

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

BTW: I eat a pound of either beef, pork, boar, or elk five days a week. I eat burritos and tacos from taco trucks located not 90 miles from Mexico. I eat tacos and burritos in Tijuana.

Test me. You'll find weed in my bloodstream, DHEA, and a few other OTC vitamins.

Prove to me someone tested positive from eating "tainted meat" and I'll pay you $500. Shelby is a cheating doping idiot.

Pay me my $500.

"Researchers at the Portuguese National Laboratory of Veterinary Research found that the consumption of pork meat, specifically the liver of uncastrated males, can cause the concentration of nandrolone metabolites in the urine to exceed anti-doping limits by 10 to 100 times.

The limits for nandrolone metabolites in high-level amateur athletic competition are 2 nanograms per millilitre for men and 5 nanograms for women. The human body is known to produce about 10 per cent of that amount of nandrolone. "

gina2002 wrote:

I’m just wondering about Gwen... everyone else has commented and shown support on the BTC girl side for Shelby, except for Gwen???

She's busy with Stanley.

Cancun Cruz wrote:

For those who think she's guilty or others who are willing to entertain the possibility, how do you think she went about obtaining the drugs? Who supplied them to her? Would she have sought them out (from whom?), or do you think someone approached her (and again, who)? I'm curious about how this would have actually gone down logistically. For the sake of the argument, let's assume Jerry and Shalane were completely out of the loop.

Ffs. Someone already posted a link to buy it from steroid.com previously in this thread.

maybe im naive but wrote:

I believe her.

I don't.

The athlete is responsible for food intake. If in doubt, don't eat burritos.

astro wrote:

Hassan's blood can fuel an automobile it is so chemically altered.

She's probably radioactive.

Gwen's insta story has pretty strong "say no to drugs vibes" or "say no to posting the generic BTC Shelby support message" vibes

Cancun Cruz wrote:

For those who think she's guilty or others who are willing to entertain the possibility, how do you think she went about obtaining the drugs? Who supplied them to her? Would she have sought them out (from whom?), or do you think someone approached her (and again, who)? I'm curious about how this would have actually gone down logistically. For the sake of the argument, let's assume Jerry and Shalane were completely out of the loop.

1) Most likely case is Jerry supplied her just like he does the rest of the team

2) bought from the guy at the gym who supplies everyone.

3) any of a zillion online places.

Access isn't much on issue. You would think knowledge of how to use them would be.

You would need to check to see if nandalone normally shows up in hair. Some stuff doesn't. Any a polygraph just isn't that reliable. There is a reason why we don't convict people off them.

If we ever had super cheap testing (imagine check swab and 10s later a we knew what you were positive for) we might learn that a bunch of us would test positive. Maybe every 100th burger screws me. But I doubt that...

sayyestonepotism wrote:

Cancun Cruz wrote:

The biggest tragedy for me right now is that someone like Houlihan gets ruined by this (regardless of whether she's actually guilty or not), and yet I'm supposed to believe that Hassan is clean as a whistle...

Hassan is at least suspicious. Tsegay looks doped to the gills since a year. Kipyegon actually looks the most believeable if i had to bet

None of them are believable. A totally dirty sport.

Collin wrote:

Cancun Cruz wrote:

For those who think she's guilty or others who are willing to entertain the possibility, how do you think she went about obtaining the drugs? Who supplied them to her? Would she have sought them out (from whom?), or do you think someone approached her (and again, who)? I'm curious about how this would have actually gone down logistically. For the sake of the argument, let's assume Jerry and Shalane were completely out of the loop.

Ffs. Someone already posted a link to buy it from steroid.com previously in this thread.

Okay but how did she know what to buy and how much to take and when? Who advised her on all that, a random doctor who is supporting doping? Or you think she researched it all on her own? I'm genuinely curious how this would have all started and who would have been involved to make it work.

Does BTC now have more positives than NOP ever did?