Non vaccinated get sh**** seats at the Trials

Why this is stupid:

1.) Transmission of the virus is significantly lower outdoors

2.) Vaccines are highly effective at preventing the spread of the virus

3.) By now, the vaccine is available to any vulnerable member of society, offering significant protection.

4.) By now, the vaccine is available to ANY member of society, vulnerable or non vulnerable, offering significant protection.

5.) Since vaccines are very effective, the risk of a non vaccinated spectator spreading the virus to a vaccinated spectator (given that the event is outside and vaccines are very effective) is very, very low.

These 5 facts should apply to nearly every large event these days. Policies like this are theater. If people don’t want the vaccine it is their own risk. I don’t get why vaccinated people are shaming non vaccinated people and getting so angry as they are nearly fully protected against the virus.

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

nearly fully protected against the virus.

Why should vaccinated people accommodate people making

1) dumb, uninformed choices and

2) choices that expose vaccinated people and the rest of society to needless extra risk? Yes, vaccines are not perfect. Why should vaccinated people have to go out of their way to accommodate people who refuse to be vaccinated?

Removing the troglodytes who choose to not get vaccinated likely improved the fan experience, regardless, so it's a sound business decision.

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

Why this is stupid:

1.) Transmission of the virus is significantly lower outdoors

2.) Vaccines are highly effective at preventing the spread of the virus

3.) By now, the vaccine is available to any vulnerable member of society, offering significant protection.

4.) By now, the vaccine is available to ANY member of society, vulnerable or non vulnerable, offering significant protection.

5.) Since vaccines are very effective, the risk of a non vaccinated spectator spreading the virus to a vaccinated spectator (given that the event is outside and vaccines are very effective) is very, very low.

These 5 facts should apply to nearly every large event these days. Policies like this are theater. If people don’t want the vaccine it is their own risk. I don’t get why vaccinated people are shaming non vaccinated people and getting so angry as they are nearly fully protected against the virus.

This thread was not started by an angry vaccinated person, it was started by a snowflake unvaccinated person complaining about the event organizer's decision to allow only limited seating for their kind. You dummies seem to think "choice" only applies to you. If you can choose not to be vaccinated, they can choose to seat you wherever the f#*k the want to seat you, including to not seat you at all, which would be my preference. Not because I'm afraid of being infected, but rather to teach you how true democracy and capitalism works, something you don't seem to have a grasp on.

Also, I heard that they have not opened up the distanced seating yet to the general public because they have a lot of people who kept their tickets that are trying to get moved to the unvaccinated area. The seats they bought last year are now in vaccinated areas and they have to move. If this is true, the inventory for the physically distanced area will be even less once they get everyone that already has tickets sorted out. Good luck virus boy.

I am not against the vaccine, I am just pointing out that I believe a lot of anger towards people who choose not to get the vaccine is theater. Unvaccinated people showing up to an event like this is not inconveniencing or putting vaccinated people at risk. Even before the vaccines, transmission of the virus in open air outdoor settings was extremely low. That’s partly why outdoor protests last summer led to no spikes in the virus (the fact that protestors mostly masks did also played a role in this).

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

I am not against the vaccine, I am just pointing out that I believe a lot of anger towards people who choose not to get the vaccine is theater. Unvaccinated people showing up to an event like this is not inconveniencing or putting vaccinated people at risk. Even before the vaccines, transmission of the virus in open air outdoor settings was extremely low. That’s partly why outdoor protests last summer led to no spikes in the virus (the fact that protestors mostly masks did also played a role in this).

I agree the risks are low, for sure.

However this effectively a zero-cost measure that:

1) mitigates the extra risk from having unvaccinated people on site

2) complies with state regulations about large events? IDK about this one?

3) makes nervous vaccinated people feel better

4) makes an important public health statement (look at all the conversation it's generated!)

Seems like a good move, IMO, but I am very pro-vaccine and have a small (large) bit of schadenfreude for anti-vaxxers pearl-clutching that they are being judged for their actions.

Let me also state that I am left leaning and tolerant and accepting of people who have different beliefs than myself. I respect the right of people to chose not to get vaccinated even though I believe differently. I feel that a track meet like this is a low risk setting for the virus to be transmitted and I don’t see the need to divide vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Throughout history there have been vaccine accidents that contribute to skepticism today. There is good reason that people are hesitant to take this vaccine based on prior historical events. The best way to convince these people that the vaccine is safe and effective is not to shame them or get angry with them, but to try and see things from their perspective and provide them with facts in a respectful manner to change their mind.

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

Let me also state that I am left leaning and tolerant and accepting of people who have different beliefs than myself. I respect the right of people to chose not to get vaccinated even though I believe differently. I feel that a track meet like this is a low risk setting for the virus to be transmitted and I don’t see the need to divide vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Throughout history there have been vaccine accidents that contribute to skepticism today. There is good reason that people are hesitant to take this vaccine based on prior historical events. The best way to convince these people that the vaccine is safe and effective is not to shame them or get angry with them, but to try and see things from their perspective and provide them with facts in a respectful manner to change their mind.

The event organizers are not shaming them, they are respectfully providing a way for them to attend and view the OTs, something they DID NOT have to do. It's a$$holes like me that want to shame them and either ban them or require them to wear helmets with a penis on their forehead.

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

Why this is stupid:

1.) Transmission of the virus is significantly lower outdoors

2.) Vaccines are highly effective at preventing the spread of the virus

3.) By now, the vaccine is available to any vulnerable member of society, offering significant protection.

4.) By now, the vaccine is available to ANY member of society, vulnerable or non vulnerable, offering significant protection.

5.) Since vaccines are very effective, the risk of a non vaccinated spectator spreading the virus to a vaccinated spectator (given that the event is outside and vaccines are very effective) is very, very low.

These 5 facts should apply to nearly every large event these days. Policies like this are theater. If people don’t want the vaccine it is their own risk. I don’t get why vaccinated people are shaming non vaccinated people and getting so angry as they are nearly fully protected against the virus.

I think everyone should want to kill off the virus completely. The non-vaxxers are in the way.

As it is, the non-vaxxers are going to kill those who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons, they will make many sick, and they will foment some variant that may kill millions.

The non-vaxxers are just babies saying 'I'm the boss of me,'

Harambe wrote:

benaskrenfan1 wrote:

nearly fully protected against the virus.

Why should vaccinated people accommodate people making

1) dumb, uninformed choices and

2) choices that expose vaccinated people and the rest of society to needless extra risk? Yes, vaccines are not perfect. Why should vaccinated people have to go out of their way to accommodate people who refuse to be vaccinated?

Removing the troglodytes who choose to not get vaccinated likely improved the fan experience, regardless, so it's a sound business decision.

Why should the human race accommodate a sub-human like you?

Some people can't be vaccinated. You still want to discriminate against them, you idiotic pos?

agip wrote:

and they will foment some variant that may kill millions.

Another idiotic fearmonger. ^

wg4hw wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Why should vaccinated people accommodate people making

1) dumb, uninformed choices and

2) choices that expose vaccinated people and the rest of society to needless extra risk? Yes, vaccines are not perfect. Why should vaccinated people have to go out of their way to accommodate people who refuse to be vaccinated?

Removing the troglodytes who choose to not get vaccinated likely improved the fan experience, regardless, so it's a sound business decision.

Why should the human race accommodate a sub-human like you?

Some people can't be vaccinated. You still want to discriminate against them, you idiotic pos?

You keep owning yourself. I love it!

Yes some people cannot be vaccinated, thus we need EVERYONE who can be vaccinated to opt-in - to protect those that cannot! You're correct! The anti-vax deserve shame!

"Pretending to care about the immunocompromised to make myself look even dumber"

- wg4hw

Now it appears you can only get vending in the stadium so you get the Sh**** food too!

Vaccinated people get the good stuff!

"In accordance with the State of Oregon Health Guidelines, the Food & Beverage Pavilion on Agate Street will be open to ticketed spectators who are vaccinated or under the age of 16.

The following vendors are located in the Agate Street Food & Beverage Pavilion:

Oregon Wood Fired Pizza

CHOW gastropub

Greek Grill

TrackTown Café N

Hop Valley

Picky Bars + Laird Super Foods

TrackTown Café S

Thinking Tree

Philyaw’s Cookout"

2600 bro wrote:

wg4hw wrote:

Why should the human race accommodate a sub-human like you?

Some people can't be vaccinated. You still want to discriminate against them, you idiotic pos?

You keep owning yourself. I love it!

Yes some people cannot be vaccinated, thus we need EVERYONE who can be vaccinated to opt-in - to protect those that cannot! You're correct! The anti-vax deserve shame!

Shame? On you. And blood on your hands.

wg4hw wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

You keep owning yourself. I love it!

Yes some people cannot be vaccinated, thus we need EVERYONE who can be vaccinated to opt-in - to protect those that cannot! You're correct! The anti-vax deserve shame!

Shame? On you. And blood on your hands.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56425115

Yikes... bro... not even a response to my point.

Lockdowns suck. We know this. Countries' that didn't act fast enough cost themselves billions of dollars, many lives, and forced multiple lockdowns... horrible governance.

Of course the ~4M people dead from COVID don't matter right?

Haha yo I deserve my sh*t seats bro

When’s my funeral ?

I made it. Go fund (fraud) me bro

https://www.horancares.com/obituary/DanielDuke-Trujillo