Scared to death of a false accusation from a girl

you need to call and tell her why you said what you said. go from there

lol no you don't call her and apologize. Let it go, nothing happened other than you embarrassing yourself. Learn from it but there is zero reason to apologize.

Do not call or text this person ever again.

We need "dating body-cams".

yikesssss wrote:

byron evans wrote:

I don't believe you and hopefully you get the book thrown at you. If it was consensual I'm pretty sure she wouldn't tell _you_ it was nonconsensual. She might have brought that up to friends or police later, but that she told you that she thought you were sexually assaulting her is really bizarre. And then why the hell would you apologize if you didn't do anything? You either read the signs very wrong or are a creep. Either way, don't be alone with women anymore.

there's nothing that was done that was nonconsenual.

If that's the case (in bold) then leave it right there, be done with it and move on. But sure as hell don't ever talk to, text, be in the room with or ever contact this person ever again. Don't ever speak of the incident ever again, to her, or anyone else, other than those worlds in bold. If she's insinuating you committed a crime against her that you didn't, that's someone you shouldn't have any more contact with, of any kind. Ever.

You need to delete this thread and clear your browser history. If she presses charges, law enforcement will likely confiscate the phone as evidence.

That part about "should I make you" that's not great for you.

Most smart phones have either built in or 3rd party software/apps that persistently "listen' or "record" conversations. You can try to find those files and see how they sound. If they sound bad, reformat the phone and delete the cloud backups

yikesssss wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Now you get to find out who your real friends are. Don't sweat it if you're innocent.

not that simple. the "believe women" movement has me damned. from now on i'm wearing a mic every time in the bedroom or leaving one in my clothes

You'll be fine because your story is fake.

You left out the part about your skepticism toward climate change and your reluctance to attend a BLM rally with her.

You are in BIG TROUBLE.

WinnytheBish wrote:

yikesssss wrote:

not that simple. the "believe women" movement has me damned. from now on i'm wearing a mic every time in the bedroom or leaving one in my clothes

You'll be fine because your story is fake.

Exactly. Just a weakly concocted story that was clearly a front to take shots at the “Believe women” movement. He couldn’t even make it two posts without it.

Dave37 wrote:

OJ84 wrote:

You are a cretin and your take on this is sickening.

People often apologize when they haven't done anything wrong (this is quite normal human behavior - e.g. two people bump into each other and both apologise - it doesn't mean they both think they were at fault). If you can't understand human interactions, you either haven't socialized much or you are extremely autistic. Either way, don't comment on topics like this.

No. Two people who bump into each other both apologize when they both feel that they share in the blame for the incident.

If you apologize for something that wasn't your fault, you are a soy boy beta c#ck and you deserve whatever happens to you.

People also say sorry to be polite. Just as there can sometimes be ambiguity around consent, people can misspeak or give an apology where one isn't due.

It seems this girl withdrew consent and the boy immediately stopped. He would have to give an exact transcript of what he said, but from the context it seems he was saying "sorry if I made you uncomfortable" not "Sorry. I agree it was nonconsensual."

He perhaps shouldn't have said sorry, but he probably felt flustered and worried by her false accusation.

"Soy boy beta" - is that in the Constitution?

Not a true story. However, the odds of a conviction are heavily in your favor. So you can carry on touching women without their consent. No worries.

"Believe women", from how I understand it, doesn't mean that what women say is 100% the truth in these matters. It means taking the accusation seriously and following up in a manner befitting such an allegation. It may be that she did feel a bit coerced based on conversation and behaviors you exhibited. It could be that wasn't your intention but maybe it manifested somehow. It could be that she misread your intentions. But it seems to me you had no intention of doing anything nonconsensual as you disengaged when she told you to. If she had done so sooner it seems like you also would have disengaged. Hardly seems like there's a case to be made here at all but I'm no lawyer or policy expert depending on which institution she may bring it to, if she does that at all.

If tells others of the interaction it's a he said she said thing and you can only explain what you perceived was happening to the best of your abilities.

She didn’t like the “should I make you” comment. The reason? It wasn’t dominant. I think dominant just means taking the lead to a lot of girls, not bondage and whips and whatnot. Asking “should I make you” isn’t taking the lead. It’s asking her permission. She didn’t like it and booted your ass out on the street. The lesson to take from this is that you should keep your mouth shut when you’re about to get some. Also, don’t contact her anymore. You’re probably tempted to message her with apologies, but that’s just going to make things worse. Move on. Go for a run. Find a new date and keep your mouth shut at the crucial moment. You’ll be fine.

When Democrats realized how ridiculous their “believe all women” message was … that is, when Democrats started being accused … they changed to the more reasonable “all women should be heard and the evidence evaluated”.

But they are still hypocritical beyond belief … if the accused is a Republican, they believe her. If a Democrat, they don’t. The strength of the evidence be damned.

WinnytheBish wrote:

yikesssss wrote:

not that simple. the "believe women" movement has me damned. from now on i'm wearing a mic every time in the bedroom or leaving one in my clothes

You'll be fine because your story is fake.

His story is fake and he's doing it because he thinks men are being accused left right and center of things they haven't done.

For reference and for the OP only about a third are reported (compared to two-thirds of other similarly serious crimes) and less than one-sixth of those the police think is worthy of investigation (again much less than other crimes)

The stats also show how terrible the police are at dealing with crime in general.

Tatar wrote:

WinnytheBish wrote:

You'll be fine because your story is fake.

His story is fake and he's doing it because he thinks men are being accused left right and center of things they haven't done.

For reference and for the OP only about a third are reported (compared to two-thirds of other similarly serious crimes) and less than one-sixth of those the police think is worthy of investigation (again much less than other crimes)

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

The stats also show how terrible the police are at dealing with crime in general.

These statistics are worrying, but do they show a problem with the system, or is it just a feature of this sort of crime?

If the alleged victim is underage, it just needs to be established that the activity occurred.

But if the alleged victim is old enough to consent, there is the question of what happened and whether consent was given. Doesn't that make it much harder to find conclusive or even persuasive evidence compared to most other crimes? Doesn't it often come down to the word of the accused versus the word of the alleged victim?

nope, this absolutely happened. I am lot more chill about it now though because I havent gotten a call from law enforcement yet. since I did nothing wrong I a trying to not worry about it. I don't know how the cops would call me or something though, I move alot. I just don't want to get pulled over in 6 months and then realize I have a warrant I never knew about

and no, I haven't tried conatcting her. Once I got to my car I sent her a text on snapchat something like "Her, super sorry about that. I thought you said you liked being dominated and I thought you were teasing and misread the moment. Have a great night" that's pretty close to verbatim. Then she screenshotted and blocked. I know her instagram but am never gonna contact her again if I don't have to.

I just think some girls think it's "cool" to call themselves a "Sub" and to call their "Dom" Daddy. Basically they watched 50 Shades of Grey too much.

There's a continuum between freaky in the bedroom and what you find on FetLife.

Your first sexual encounter with someone is probably not the best time to find out if she likes to be choked or slapped or anything else unless she actually puts your hand on her neck, etc OR she is very specific with her expectations OR verbally cues you during the act.

Alan

yikesssss wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Now you get to find out who your real friends are. Don't sweat it if you're innocent.

not that simple. the "believe women" movement has me damned. from now on i'm wearing a mic every time in the bedroom or leaving one in my clothes

I’ve been asking women to sign a consent for to avoid this exact situation. It’s kind of a catch 22 because more often than not it turns them off and they end up leaving but I’d rather have that then what you are about to experience.