Primo Numero Uno wrote:
I am a Trump guy but wrote:
Sweden like Brazil and like India all messed up.
I am a Trump guy but I always said he got it wrong too, he should have taken the pandemic seriously.
No you're not. You're a leftist pretending to be a Trump guy anonymously online.
Wrong, an opportunity was missed and cost us dearly. Economy and Trumps re-election hopes were damaged.
Yeah, about that... wrote:
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
Florida did just as [well] as heavy-handed California and better than New York or New Jersey.
Uh huh. And in the last seven days had the highest death rate among the Lower 48:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases_deathsper100klast7daysPlus Florida has had *more* total deaths per capita than California:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/But other than that: sure Jan.
Primo - why don’t work. On getting the basics right before you go telling others how to think as conservatives.
You can be a conservative and take this thing serious.
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
The liberals need some time to pass before they can learn things. They are not an advanced form of society. Give them time and maybe they can catch up but perhaps they're stuck in their Neanderthal ways of cognitive ability .
What sorta yuppie rubbish is that?
Harambe wrote:
party like it's end of days wrote:
Of course you can't keep up, that's why you're always confused. Guess they're doing the same thing that they're starting to do here...started with one type of PCR testing then switched to a much less sensitive test but only for the vaxxed.
Ohh I see. They ask you before you get swabbed "do you have the vax" and then the secret MI6 vaccine police reprogram the RT-PCR machine to prop up the Pfizer-NWO.
Lool. You continue to sound like the ultimate dooche...
https://sentinelksmo.org/cdc-maximum-28-ct-for-post-vaccine-covid-pcr-tests/party like it's end of days wrote:
Lool. You continue to sound like the ultimate dooche...
https://sentinelksmo.org/cdc-maximum-28-ct-for-post-vaccine-covid-pcr-tests/
Sadly you completely misinterpret the actual CDC guidance (which is... unrelated to UK testing policy, but I digress)
The RT-PCR Ct threshold of 28 applies only to samples that will be sequenced -- to determine any mutations in breakthrough infections. It says nothing about thresholds for positivity.
More misinformation from the denier-fearmongers.
Here is the details from the CDC:
Respiratory specimen for SARS-CoV-2 sequencing
• Specimen selection
o Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.
o If a Ct valueis not available, specimens that are positive for SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen by another testing modality may be sent.
Sweden abandoned their laissez faire policy approach a long time ago, so I am not sure if a snippet of one day last week is an accurate measure of the effectiveness of their policy. The measure of effectiveness is excess deaths and economic damage. As far as excess deaths are concerned, Sweden ranks 44th out of 81 countries for which their is accurate data:
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
Well ahead of most of Europe, and the Americas. So calling their approach a failure is incorrect. One side benefit is they may have built up more resistance to some of the later variants that posed a higher fatality risk than the original strains. Their approach wasn't perfect, but the vaccine approach isn't perfect either. Look at the nations with the highest 7-day case totals per million:
1. Maldives 20,737 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #20)
2. Bahrain 10,428 (94 vaccinations per 100 residents, #14)
3. Seychelles 9,869 (132 vaccinations per 100 residents, #2)
...
22. Sweden 1,700 (45 vaccinations per 100 resident, #57)
...
73. USA 530 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #21)
Or 7-day death totals per million:
1 Uruguay 115 (75 vaccinations per 100 residents, #26)
2 Paraguay 108 (4 vaccinations per 100 residents, #141)
3 Argentina 76 (25 vaccinations per 100 residents, #86)
...
58 USA 11 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #21)
...
122 Sweden 0.9 (45 vaccinations per 100 resident, #57)
Trump F#cked up by not taking the firing of Phoney Tony Fauci seriously and early. The guy is the epitome of the type of Swamp Creature Trump campaigned to rid us of. Also Trump was clueless and impotent against the tyrannical censorship of both MSM and social media; they completely derailed anything like a fair and informed election much less covid coverage, and laughed in his face about it.
joed!rt wrote:
Well ahead of most of Europe, and the Americas. So calling their approach a failure is incorrect. One side benefit is they may have built up more resistance to some of the later variants that posed a higher fatality risk than the original strains. Their approach wasn't perfect, but the vaccine approach isn't perfect either. Look at the nations with the highest 7-day case totals per million:
1. Maldives 20,737 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #20)
2. Bahrain 10,428 (94 vaccinations per 100 residents, #14)
3. Seychelles 9,869 (132 vaccinations per 100 residents, #2)
...
22. Sweden 1,700 (45 vaccinations per 100 resident, #57)
...
73. USA 530 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #21)
Or 7-day death totals per million:
1 Uruguay 115 (75 vaccinations per 100 residents, #26)
2 Paraguay 108 (4 vaccinations per 100 residents, #141)
3 Argentina 76 (25 vaccinations per 100 residents, #86)
...
58 USA 11 (86 vaccinations per 100 residents, #21)
...
122 Sweden 0.9 (45 vaccinations per 100 resident, #57)
The mRNA vaccines, at least, appear to show better (or equivalent) protection against variants than prior COVID infection.
The chinese vax is terrible.
Yeah, about that... wrote:
R.O.C.C.W.C. wrote:
A narrative that's been thoroughly debunked.
Which, of course, doesn't change the FACT that Florida has had more *total* deaths per population unit than California AND the highest *recent* seven-day Covid-19 death rate among the Lower 48.
Florida kept schools open, Disney World open, hosted major sports, and has been living a basically normal life for 3+ months, and only had a *marginally* higher death rate than lockdown-heavy California, which is embarrassingly still debating school closures in the fall.
Harambe wrote:
party like it's end of days wrote:
Lool. You continue to sound like the ultimate dooche...
https://sentinelksmo.org/cdc-maximum-28-ct-for-post-vaccine-covid-pcr-tests/Sadly you completely misinterpret the actual CDC guidance (which is... unrelated to UK testing policy, but I digress)
The RT-PCR Ct threshold of 28 applies only to samples that will be sequenced -- to determine any mutations in breakthrough infections. It says nothing about thresholds for positivity.
More misinformation from the denier-fearmongers.
Weird. It also says nothing about about not using ct 28 thresholds for positivity.
johhnies wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Sadly you completely misinterpret the actual CDC guidance (which is... unrelated to UK testing policy, but I digress)
The RT-PCR Ct threshold of 28 applies only to samples that will be sequenced -- to determine any mutations in breakthrough infections. It says nothing about thresholds for positivity.
More misinformation from the denier-fearmongers.
Weird. It also says nothing about about not using ct 28 thresholds for positivity.
Denier-fearmongers just make stuff up nowadays and think posting a link means people will believe their BS. Reading is not their strong suit... but neither is math. They are hopeless across the academic spectrum.
Harambe wrote:
johhnies wrote:
Weird. It also says nothing about about not using ct 28 thresholds for positivity.
Denier-fearmongers just make stuff up nowadays and think posting a link means people will believe their BS. Reading is not their strong suit... but neither is math. They are hopeless across the academic spectrum.
You sound very knowledgeable. So what is the RT-PCR CT they are using now?
This is basically who you are arguing with....paid shills or the fools that believe them. Here, more likely the latter though I can't rule out that some are on the take given their persistence.
https://twitter.com/charliehtweets/status/1396860850699395074?s=20
Lol. That's already been debunked. Talk about foolish posting.
800 critic wrote:
This is basically who you are arguing with....paid shills or the fools that believe them. Here, more likely the latter though I can't rule out that some are on the take given their persistence.
https://twitter.com/charliehtweets/status/1396860850699395074?s=20
The sad part is these morons on LRC are dumb enough to do the fearmongering for free
Sweden suffered heavy loses when the pandemic first hit because they pretty much pulled a Cuomo with respect to nursing home populations. At the bottom end of the first wave, Sweden lost about 5,800 people to COVID 19.
At that point, Tegnell claimed that Sweden had reached a level of herd immunity that would protect it from any further big surges in cases and that all Sweden had to do was protect vulnerable populations. Basically exactly what the Great Barrington clowns were urging. Then the fall/winter surge hit. Sweden lost another 8,500 to COVID.
So, then the COVID deniers try to throw out the red herrings and compare Sweden to other EU nations that did marginally worse despite having stronger lockdowns. But this is completely besides the point. The Swedish/GB herd immunity was supposed to actually protect a country's population from the kind of mass deaths that . . . we saw in Sweden. Instead, the goal posts are moved and now it is a choice between mass deaths with relatively weak restrictions and mass deaths with stronger restrictions (but also with misguided policies on reopening and reimposing measures). Thus, Sweden's "herd immunity success" is bullsh#t because tons of people died.
johhnies wrote:
You sound very knowledgeable. So what is the RT-PCR CT they are using now?
Varies by test design/protocol/sample prep etc. There's no one number that applies across all schema.
2600 bro wrote:
Sweetness wrote:
You're correct. Much more so than police state UK.
I really respect Belarus's commitment to freedom of the press and fair/free elections!
Yes, as if the US is full of fair and balanced press with no one pushing agenda or propaganda...oh wait...that's all the media is now.
Yup, you've been doing the ridiculous fearmongering for over a year, and now when people are actually suffering from the poison you push the sick suggestion that no one is suffering from this. There is no bigger liar and conspiracy theorist than yourself and your few clown shills.