Tokyo Olympics - Not looking good / "Stop the fear porn" says Rojo

Contractually, it appears the IOC can cancel but Tokyo/Japan cannot.

The IOC can cancel if the athletes will be in danger (it does not have to consider the endangerment of the citizens of Tokyo). If the IOC is anything like my workplace, they will say the athletes are not in danger because social distancing measures are in place.

The Olympics should be cancelled. Tokyo doesn’t want it.

However, the Olympics won’t be cancelled.

Just delay it one more year. If they can delay it one year when the Covid outcome was uncertain, they can delay it one more year when the Covid outcome (next year) is certain. Why not hold the World Championships this year in Eugene as planned, and hold Tokyo next year?

Max Burgin and Jakob certain gold medalists in 2022, and likely three time 800m/1500m Olympic champions respectively.

Sorry Donovan/Tim.

How can you predict the winner of the 2028 Olympics, we may not even know their names, the could be 15-17 right now.

Figures at the moment are high, but the vaccine does bring figures down rather sharpish. You can see already the cases has begun to drop and with a 2 week lag this should really be visible my mid June

Also, on the 23rd they managed nearly a 750.000 doses in one day, for their population if they can keep that up, i'm sure the people will feel a lot more safer by the end of June.

The public and government needs to focus on delivering the roll out of the vaccine has they had planned and so far failed to deliver on

How many Olympic athletes are truly ‘in danger’ from covid?

1% - at a push, maybe.

At worst they should vaccinate every official at the game alongside making sure they’re outside the at risk groups and keep everybody involved in a bubble.

Coevett wrote:

Just delay it one more year. If they can delay it one year when the Covid outcome was uncertain, they can delay it one more year when the Covid outcome (next year) is certain. Why not hold the World Championships this year in Eugene as planned, and hold Tokyo next year?

Max Burgin and Jakob certain gold medalists in 2022, and likely three time 800m/1500m Olympic champions respectively.

Sorry Donovan/Tim.

Who is Donovan?

Mount Olympus wrote:

Contractually, it appears the IOC can cancel but Tokyo/Japan cannot.

The IOC can cancel if the athletes will be in danger (it does not have to consider the endangerment of the citizens of Tokyo). If the IOC is anything like my workplace, they will say the athletes are not in danger because social distancing measures are in place.

The Olympics should be cancelled. Tokyo doesn’t want it.

However, the Olympics won’t be cancelled.

They aren’t in danger because they can get a vaccine if they want it. Social distancing is what idiots are still talking about. There is zero reason for your work or anything else to not be 100% open.

Because there already is a 2022 Olympics. The Winter Olympics in China.

Japan does not want to be one-upped by China. China will not move their 2022 games as a middle finger to Japan.

I'm not even sure logistically you could run a summer AND winter games in a single year. Part of the 2 year divided was to allow logistics to make sense.

the 2022 games have bene in motion for years and even if it wasn't China, there is no way the holder would cancel them.

Add in the China vs. Japan antagonism AND the China against the world theme currently.... 2022 is happening no matter what.

Japan doesn't want to loose their stage....to China. 2020/1 will happen in some form.

jumped higher wrote:

How can you predict the winner of the 2028 Olympics, we may not even know their names, the could be 15-17 right now.

In 1978 I would have been able to predict the winner of the 1984 1500m - Ovett, Cram, or Coe.

Of course injuries and stuff can happen, but Max Burgin and Jakob are so far ahead of their peers, and their equivalent peers 10 years ago, and 20 years ago, there's a good chance that either or both Max Burgin or Jakob will win a gold in 2028. Maybe 25% that one of them does. Max will be 26 and potentially at his peak, and Jakob will be 28. Both could well be world record holders by then.

Talent is drying up in Africa for 800 and 1500. East Africans can compete with no doping over 5000m and marathon, but 800/1500 no chance, not when Europeans, Americans, Australians are running Coe Cram Ovett times again.

The only runners who might beat Max and Jakob in 2028 are likely another Ingibrigsten prodigy, or another super talented Brit/Australian/New Zealander coming through.

Mount Olympus wrote:

Contractually, it appears the IOC can cancel but Tokyo/Japan cannot.

The IOC can cancel if the athletes will be in danger (it does not have to consider the endangerment of the citizens of Tokyo). If the IOC is anything like my workplace, they will say the athletes are not in danger because social distancing measures are in place.

The Olympics should be cancelled. Tokyo doesn’t want it.

However, the Olympics won’t be cancelled.

I would think that the Japanese Goverment can stop the Olympics from happening even if the IOC will not cancel them. They only have to put a couple of soldiers around the stadiums. problem solved.

Another Dime for the Cursed Jar wrote:

I'm not even sure logistically you could run a summer AND winter games in a single year. Part of the 2 year divided was to allow logistics to make sense.

You must be young or not very knowledgeable of the Winter Games. Until 1992, both the Summer and Winter Olympic Games were ALWAYS held the same year. 1994 was the first year they had them in different years.

And to all the "Negative Nancy"s, Tokyo is going to happen in July. 100%

zxcxcxcvxc wrote:

In 1978 I would have been able to predict the winner of the 1984 1500m - Ovett, Cram, or Coe.

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You can thank Said Aouita (best performer of that year) to not have chosen the 1500m in the Olympic Games.

The fact that Britannic "jubilent encore" about that "epic achievement" prove why some minds are small.

As for the extinction of "African runner" you can thank Mo Farah for the glory he brought to the great UK.

The African/British runner Kelly Holmes was probably a doper in 2004.

(following your logic)

Why she had won two gold medals suddenly at the age 34?

I'm old enough to remember the games back into the 70s.

There were three reason (primarily) that they split them up ;

1). To carry the "Olympic spirit" forward more often as opposed to every 4 years.

2). To give the host cities MORE focus and media bandwidth

3). Modern olympics were getting out of hand in 80s so the IOC wanted to allow more time to put on the event, by the host city (see #2) and by the IOC itself. (The plan was confirmed in 1986, Lillehammer was the first actual games to alternate... it took them that long to activate).

BUT with the Tokyo games specifically.

The larger issue is that Japan does not want to be on-upped by China, China does not want to share the spotlight with Japan.

If the 2008 games were China's coming out party... 2022 is China's stamp as a global super power. They don't want to share that in anyway, especially with Japan.

A new level of absurdity, Coevett.

Donavan Brazier. Contender and possibly the favorite for the Olympic 800m gold.

Track & Field already has a World Championships.

As do most of the real sports that are in the Olympics. A lot of the rest of it can go away, or back to the bar in Wisconsin or wherever.

zxcxcxcvxc wrote:

China should be banned from holding the games, it's an obscene joke. Let Japan host the winter games too as a bonus.

No kidding. The rest of the world should boycott the 2022 Olympics as a middle finger to China.

Just realized that Worlds 2022 is in Eugene. Surprised Brojos haven't started campaigning to push Tokyo to 2022 so Nike gets screwed with Eugene 2022 cancelled.

I think moving it to 2022 is actually a good idea. That would give all the athletes a full year of COVID free training and competition to get ready for the Olympics. There have been too many shortened seasons, cancellations, etc. in the run up to Tokyo.

Winter and summer Olympics used to be the same year for decades. China and Japan can deal with it.