Cam Levins 2:10:13 in rainy conditions

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2 years ago 05/25/2021 4:27pm EDT

re: George213

George213 wrote:
Ghost1 wrote:
The Hoka One One are “super shoes” in their own right aren’t they? What advantage does Nike, Adidas, Brooks, ASICS, and other super shoe brands have over this one? Carbon plate missing with Hoka?
Pebax foam, which is actually the secret ingredient for the well-acclaimed Vaporfly.

The "secret ingredient" is the combination of pebax foam and the plate at a precise curve. There's a reason why people aren't breaking records in Peg Turbos. The Hokas don't have the right curvature and aren't at all similar.

2 years ago 05/25/2021 4:43pm EDT

re: Collin

Levins hasn't been a Salazar athlete for years.

2 years ago 05/25/2021 4:56pm EDT

re: Collin

best marathon efforts

Fauble 2:09, SSmith 2:09, Cam 2:10, Rory 2:12, Aliphine 2:27/OT win, Kellyn 2:25, Steph 2:29, Julia K 2:29

2 years ago 05/25/2021 5:26pm EDT

re: Collin

Collin wrote:
George213 wrote:
Pebax foam, which is actually the secret ingredient for the well-acclaimed Vaporfly.
The "secret ingredient" is the combination of pebax foam and the plate at a precise curve. There's a reason why people aren't breaking records in Peg Turbos. The Hokas don't have the right curvature and aren't at all similar.

How much worse are alternatives? Half? More?

2 years ago 05/25/2021 5:28pm EDT

re: cramister

Levin's quit the Oregon Project before it was the cool thing to do. In any case, great run Cam, a classy Hoka athlete.

2 years ago 05/25/2021 6:19pm EDT

re: ^

^ wrote:
Bill Rodgers rainy 1979 Boston victory: 2:09:27; just beyond 42 years ago. Think about it...

Sammy Wanjiru, 2:06:32 to win the Beijing Olympics, with temps that hit 84 F under clear sunny skies. Doesn't mean heat is irrelevant to marathon performance.

(No disrespect to Rodgers' run, of course! He's a legend, and that run in particular was amazing. But exceptions don't prove rules.)

2 years ago 05/25/2021 8:31pm EDT

re: rocket x

rocket x wrote:
best marathon efforts
Fauble 2:09, SSmith 2:09, Cam 2:10, Rory 2:12, Aliphine 2:27/OT win, Kellyn 2:25, Steph 2:29, Julia K 2:29

Cam ran 2:09.25 in Toronto a few years ago. Canadian record.

2 years ago 05/25/2021 9:05pm EDT

re: pinecone

yes. Cam wore the Carbon Rocket

2 years ago 05/25/2021 10:04pm EDT

re: pesto

pesto wrote:
jazzytherunner wrote:
Call me crazy, but 50F and raining is one of my favorite conditions to run in, especially for longer distances. I tend to generate a ton of heat when I exercise so I find that rain and cool temperatures prevents me from overheating, which is often my limiting factor when running longer distances.
You're crazy. ;)

He probably listens to too much of <<Ascension>> lately.

2 years ago 05/25/2021 10:06pm EDT

re: Collin

Collin wrote:
George213 wrote:
Pebax foam, which is actually the secret ingredient for the well-acclaimed Vaporfly.
The "secret ingredient" is the combination of pebax foam and the plate at a precise curve. There's a reason why people aren't breaking records in Peg Turbos. The Hokas don't have the right curvature and aren't at all similar.

Fair enough. Either way, carbon plate alone doesn't mean a squat.

2 years ago 05/28/2021 9:34am EDT

re: dzy

dzy wrote:sauvie island if you want to get specific. A lot of BTC athletes and people training in portland run there a lot because it's so flat and devoid of cars, as well as being really pretty. It's pretty awesome.

They just go there in the summer to run by all the nudists at the clothing free beach.

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