Does Fauci have any credibility left?

2600 bro wrote:

Harambe wrote:

There's no smoking-gun genomic evidence of engineering (not that there necessarily would be!). The furin site is not as definitive as some want it to be.

The WIV went to places and sampled coronaviruses. It seems most likely (to me) that a worker got infected on a sampling trip and spread it in Wuhan or they somehow picked up a cataloged strain in a lab accident.

These are both bad, but not quite as nefarious as GOF research. I don't see clear evidence the NIH (which I guess we are just calling "Fauci") funded GOF research at the WIV. They did fund sampling efforts, it seems, which isn't great from a safety perspective but more generally acceptable.

Trying to pin this whole thing on Fauci is a stretch and counter productive.

People have to do research on coronaviruses to prevent pandemics. Not funding research is insanely stupid and detrimental from a national security standpoint.

a few science degrees later. wrote:

joed|rt wrote:

First he says lies to the public and says masks don't work and COVID gets above a level where it can be effectively controlled. Then he turns around and admits masks work and that we all need to wear masks. When vaccinations come out Rand Paul accuses him of engaging in mask theater and he starts spinning yarns about variants and other nonsense and lies to the public again. Then he says there is no need to wear masks if you are vaccinated.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fauci-admits-rand-paul-was-right-about-him/ar-BB1gSfkI?ocid=undefined

Can you trust anything he says?

Umm are you really this stupid? Science lesson:

The virus was too new at the beginning for there to be testing and enough data on mask efficacy. They aren’t going to tell you to do something unless it’s scientifically supported. Of course, after a few months they had enough data to support wearing masks. This is how science works.

Now, they have enough data to support the vaccinated do not need mask.

Don’t do things “just because”. Follow what the science supports or refutes.

Stu...Stu Padaso wrote:

a few science degrees later. wrote:

Umm are you really this stupid? Science lesson:

The virus was too new at the beginning for there to be testing and enough data on mask efficacy. They aren’t going to tell you to do something unless it’s scientifically supported. Of course, after a few months they had enough data to support wearing masks. This is how science works.

Now, they have enough data to support the vaccinated do not need mask.

Don’t do things “just because”. Follow what the science supports or refutes.

All I know is:

FACT: His ineptitude produced early rounds of Covid tests that had live virus on them, spread Covid across the country, and it was only caught by local officals. You can find local news stories about this, national media kept quiet.

FACT: Covid test distributed by the government produced an extremely high level of false positives, so essentially it was junk science.

FACT: he has completely reversed himself many times on guidance.

FACT: he actively promoted himself by repeatly making the rounds on every talk show.

FACT: he has been found to not adhere to his own advice.

FACT: Fauci headed up the AIDS outbreak response in the 80s. He created a scare in everyone, when AIDs was known to be highly preventable based on activity. But he perpetuated the fear that anyone could get it by localized contact.

FACT: He has been a bureaucrat for 50+ years, is the highest paid person in government, and still didn't have a plan for handling a pandemic (and still doesn't). Has admitted to making it up as he goes. What has he been doing for 50+ years?

I could go on and on...

He has NO credibility, to anyone who has looked at the facts. As for the science? We are never given the science, we are only given OPINIONS by non-scientists about the science.

Heartless wrote:

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

So, how did all of that research prevent this past year? Oopps, nope, it caused the pandemic. Moron. We don't need to develop bio-weapons to understand them to stop the spread of bio-weapons. We definitely don't need to provide funding to the bio-weapons lab of one of the most nefarious and viciously inhumane governments in the world to do so either.

Not sure if it’s a bio-weapon or not yet, but it’s becoming increasingly clear it was a lab leak, and that the U.S. funded at least part of the research. And yes, Fauci was the leader of overturning the “no GoF” policy in 2017 and approved the funding through Eco Health Alliance. These are the facts. The facts that certain members of the scientific community want covered up.

The media’s deranged “orange man bad”-goggles once again resulted in a tremendous disservice to the world. Rather than exposing the filthy scum at the root of a problem that killed hundreds of thousands of people, they helped cover it up. It’s immoral, unethical, and disgusting behavior from our ruling class. Yet the sheep come to their defense every single time.

Harambe wrote:

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

This is also not the "latest" whatever way you want to slander it. Fauci's financial fingerprints in this have been known since the beginning, and it is very likely the reason to push himself into the spotlight this past year.; he needed to control the narrative to protect himself.

There's no smoking-gun genomic evidence of engineering (not that there necessarily would be!). The furin site is not as definitive as some want it to be.

The WIV went to places and sampled coronaviruses. It seems most likely (to me) that a worker got infected on a sampling trip and spread it in Wuhan or they somehow picked up a cataloged strain in a lab accident.

These are both bad, but not quite as nefarious as GOF research. I don't see clear evidence the NIH (which I guess we are just calling "Fauci") funded GOF research at the WIV. They did fund sampling efforts, it seems, which isn't great from a safety perspective but more generally acceptable.

Trying to pin this whole thing on Fauci is a stretch and counter productive.