Summer of 69

IDK. I'm not sure if it needs more steady runs.

First of all, Pre had no 1600 PR. He wouldn't have been willing to race over a non-standard distance. It is not an event nor is it worthy of your motivation and skills. Keep in mind that 3 miles WAS a recognized event at the time and an AR record existed for it. He, of course, held it at the time of his most famous automotive feat.

Second, would someone like Pre have considered 7 miles to be a long run? I'm no Pre - not even close - but to me, you'd have to double that to be close to the border of what I'd consider long. Maybe still stretching it even then.

Pre ran 4-8 miles in his single runs and got around 10-12 a day

no need to overcomplicate things, you literally just need easy runs+strides, a long run, and maybe a tempo/hill day.

Prees and cons wrote:

First of all, Pre had no 1600 PR. He wouldn't have been willing to race over a non-standard distance. It is not an event nor is it worthy of your motivation and skills.

Agreed, sham, refuse to run the 1600m at all costs. It is a dishonorable event to run. This upcoming track season make sure to start 9 steps back in order to run a mile or you may as well not even start.

Sham 69 wrote:

Sunday - 7 mile long run (5:40-6:20)

Monday - 3 mile BLEED RUN followed by 8x300

Tuesday - Off

Wednesday - (am): 20x200 (pm): 5x1000

Thursday - Short run or off

Friday - (am): 2 miles (6:00) (pm): 2 miles (5:30)

Saturday - 6x400 in 65 seconds.

Opinions? I want to be just like Prefontaine and my best PR is 4:27 in the 1600 meter dash.

Surely you dont actually train like this with 4 workouts during the week and flogging your easy runs you wont get anywhere close to where you could be at

LOLOLOL wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Sunday - 7 mile long run (5:40-6:20)

Monday - 3 mile BLEED RUN followed by 8x300

Tuesday - Off

Wednesday - (am): 20x200 (pm): 5x1000

Thursday - Short run or off

Friday - (am): 2 miles (6:00) (pm): 2 miles (5:30)

Saturday - 6x400 in 65 seconds.

Opinions? I want to be just like Prefontaine and my best PR is 4:27 in the 1600 meter dash.

Surely you dont actually train like this with 4 workouts during the week and flogging your easy runs you wont get anywhere close to where you could be at

I've seen you say want to go to college and want to take running seriously well please for the love of god change your training at most do three workouts a week say tuesday thursday saturday, extend your sunday long run out its about time on feet then monday and wednesday are easy runs where you are running for recovery not fitness if you flog your easy runs your workouts and races wont be as quality as they can

If you disagree with what I suggest look at all the pro groups training or even college teams they will be very much similar to what I suggested or at least closer to mine than what you currently do

You'll need to find a Finnish guy to own you and beat you like a rented mule.

Sham 69 wrote:

Sunday - 7 mile long run (5:40-6:20)

Monday - 3 mile BLEED RUN followed by 8x300

Tuesday - Off

Wednesday - (am): 20x200 (pm): 5x1000

Thursday - Short run or off

Friday - (am): 2 miles (6:00) (pm): 2 miles (5:30)

Saturday - 6x400 in 65 seconds.

Opinions? I want to be just like Prefontaine and my best PR is 4:27 in the 1600 meter dash.

This training is complete crap. You're running too few miles, too fast for recovery, too slow to gain fitness. After a summer of this, you'd be coming into xc in pretty bad shape compared to your teammates who train sensibly. Look up summer of malmo since you don't know how to train.