Fauci moves goalposts again

typical wrote:

the idiot wrote:

Using your idiot logic, did they die FROM the vaccine, or WITH the vaccine...?

Using the standards set during the pandemic it doesn't matter. They are the same.

92% of deaths involving COVID have COVID as the -underlying- cause on the death certificate in the USA.

If you are so concerned about 'with' COVID deaths, feel free to reduce the current COVID death tally by... 8%.

Before any true discussion can be had, it is important to start from a basis of accurate facts.

For example, what was Fauci's goalpost in Dec. 2020? I looked to see if Fauci ever predicted life would be back to normal by June 2021, and couldn't find any such a prediction from Fauci.

I did find a Dec. 2020 article with that title, but when looking at the content of the interview, Fauci said no such thing. Instead, in that Dec. 2020 interview, he talked about hoping to get 70%-85% vaccinated by mid to end of summer "if we do it correctly" -- which we are not due to significant vaccine hesitancy. In Dec. 2020, Fauci was hoping for herd immunity by the third quarter 2021.

Also, "Mother's Day next year" was built into the question. It was not Fauci's new prediction.

Very little in your first post appears to be based on any accurate facts.

It looks like many also need a lesson how to interpret VAERS data. Although 30 people are dying a day, this is not necessarily linked to the vaccine, but from all causes. More than 20x that amount are dying from COVID, either directly or indirectly. According to the "HHS" website's guidance to interpreting VAERS data:

"When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established."

These are just two of the things you said, which either cannot be confirmed or are based on a wrong interpretation of data.

Anthony just likes to hear himself talk. He has no idea what's going on and should probably stop talking. He won't though. It's all gone straight to his head.

Das Unkle wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

Nobody so far has attacked Unkle's assertions but have attacked him instead. You're making him look good right now.

I have not made a single assertion.

Merely posted facts

Looks like there are some truth issues with your "facts".

rekrunner wrote:

Very little in your first post appears to be based on any accurate facts.

or....in other words....same as it ever was for the OP.

the idiot wrote:

The Unkle wrote:...a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the COVID vaccines in the United States...

Using your idiot logic, did they die FROM the vaccine, or WITH the vaccine...?

The total you are citing is not vaccine-caused deaths, which is tiny and includes no deaths due to Pfizer or Moderna (there were three deaths due to reactions to Johnson and Johnson), but even if it were, that would be fewer people in five months than were dying on single days in January from COVID.

Fauci is corrupt.

rekrunner wrote:

Das Unkle wrote:

I have not made a single assertion.

Merely posted facts

Looks like there are some truth issues with your "facts".

There are always issues with his facts,he is the typical read crap on Facebook,presume it is true and post it everywhere in the hope 1 or 2 fellow idiots believe him.

Harambe wrote:

typical wrote:

Using your idiot logic, did they die FROM the vaccine, or WITH the vaccine...?

Using the standards set during the pandemic it doesn't matter. They are the same.

92% of deaths involving COVID have COVID as the -underlying- cause on the death certificate in the USA.

Can you show me where you got that stat?

What we do know is : The CDC data states that (emphasis added), “For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.”

rekrunner wrote:

Das Unkle wrote:

I have not made a single assertion.

Merely posted facts

Looks like there are some truth issues with your "facts".

Such as? Can you cite one fact I listed that is not true?

Save America.. wrote:

Fauci is corrupt.

That goes without saying.

He works for Big Pharma and an honest man would never rise to the position he is in

COVID has made Anthony Faucci more famous, given him more power and made him wealthier than he probably thought he ever would be. Why in the world would he want this panic to end? Once the panic ends Faucci goes right back into obscurity.

Or, you know, vaccinate the most vulnerable.

Since it's not a vaccine anyway, it's just a thing that moderates the effects when you have Covid.

Das Unkle wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Using the standards set during the pandemic it doesn't matter. They are the same.

92% of deaths involving COVID have COVID as the -underlying- cause on the death certificate in the USA.

Can you show me where you got that stat?

Green dashed line divided by orange dashed line, source cited on graph.

Haven't we been here before? Repeatedly?

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Or, you know, vaccinate the most vulnerable.

Since it's not a vaccine anyway, it's just a thing that moderates the effects when you have Covid.

Wrong. It prevents transmission. There is now biochemical evidence of sterilizing immunity on top of epidemiological data on asymptomatic infections.

Not credible.

People with multiple health issues, including cancer, heart disease, etc. with a median age of 80 plus and 40% living in nursing homes die with Covid and 90% listed as Covid primary cause.

No way that passes the smell test.

On an anecdotal level, I have heard of three deaths in the town I live in and where I work where an elderly man was dying of cancer and then died and the cause of death was said to be covid. In fact, in each of the cases the surviving widow was livid that the cause was put down as Covid.

Monkeys Skyping wrote:

Haven't we been here before? Repeatedly?

I really appreciate your graphs. I reference them all the time.

My only piece of advice: avoid responding to a particular poster on COVID threads (you know the one). Nothing but a troll with a selective memory. Nothing is gained from engaging with them.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

Or, you know, vaccinate the most vulnerable.

Since it's not a vaccine anyway, it's just a thing that moderates the effects when you have Covid.

Who knows what it is.

What if the vaccinated begin having severe health issues next year? Don't you think there will be a massive cover-up an maybe an attempt to blame the non vaccinated or a mutated virus.

And nobody is even talking about the fact that Big Pharma likely created the virus at the Wuhan lab and it escaped.

Das Unkle wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Looks like there are some truth issues with your "facts".

Such as? Can you cite one fact I listed that is not true?

I cannot cite just one. I already posted two non-facts above:

"Last December (Fauci) made a prediction that Americans could expect to return to normalcy by June"

"30 people a day on average ... dying from getting the vaccine"

When you say you "merely posted facts" -- this is also not truthful.