Seychelles, the world's most vaccinated nation, reimposes COVID-19 restrictions

It still is possible and likely that some individuals can and will catch COVID after being fully vaccinated- now hospitalizations will plummet but people still may get infected.

Now, this really shouldn’t be a big deal. After being fully vaccinated the chances of you being hospitalized because of COVID is around .008% and the chances of you dying of COVID is lower than that.

The problem is that over the past year due to media & politicians constant drumming of fear porn we have become an incredibly risk adverse world where ANY risk of COVID hospitalization is becoming unacceptable. In many parts of the world and even parts of the United States this will have the effect moving forward of paralyzing individuals and society through fear.

The United States is and has been lucky through our obsession with freedom, the size of our country and federalist governmental structure that politicians don’t have the will or ability to just shut down society wholesale like in many parts of the world.

DanM wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The distribution of symptoms is a relatively meaningless distraction from the fact that COVID is quite deadly and contagious. Viruses are contagious, in case you have forgotten

At no greater than 6 deaths per 1,000 infections, COVID is "quite deadly" ?

What is Ebola ? Super duper deadly ?

Why are you changing the subject? Can't stand the heat?

You asked a loaded question as OP, don't you have a stance or some factual basis with which to argue from?

Wait, now you want our big pharma to maximize its profits during the pandemic? Which is it? All this seems very much like you want as bad a situation as possible to occur. No masks, no shutdowns, no quarantines, no vaccines. What's the end game here? Lifting vaccine patent protection in the developing world is the right thing to do. These corporations are already making a great deal of money from the pandemic, and risk to the corporations was mitigated by gov't aid, some of it too generous by far and negotiated by Trump's administration. To not police these patents, which in the first place were essentially due to government-funded researchers years ago, especially at NIH, for covid drugs is not to lift patent protections on all mRNA work that comes down the pike.

Seriously question for harambe....what is your background that you know so much

sawanson_ron wrote:

Seriously question for harambe....what is your background that you know so much

I don't know as much as other reasonable posters here.

I am more vociferous in combating denier-fearmonger propaganda and misinformation, though.

Carry on sir

Harambe wrote:

There is a big difference between eradicated and controlled.

What percentage of the country would need to be vaccinated for eradication to occur?

Harambe wrote:

Hesitancy is certainly slowing our path to beating COVID. I'll admit I underestimated the number of people who fell for the fearmongering propaganda.

Is it mostly hesitancy (i.e. people unsure - "on the fence," so to speak) or staunch anti-vaxxers who don't subscribe to any vaccines?

Harambe wrote:

People who fearmonger the vaccine are dumb. If you had the option to protect yourself and get us out of this mess but chose not to, I will think you're dumb for a very long time.

But, I don't usually associate with people who don't think for themselves, so I won't have to interact with many of the conspiracy-theory adolescents that do much of the fearmongering on here.

Well, based on your passion to have everyone vaccinated I wouldn't think you would associate with anyone who refuses the vaccine...and those people probably wouldn't want to associate with you either. And what group is fearmongering?...I guess the anti-vaxx organizations in this country? But keep in mind that anti-vaxxers are not dumb:

I'll ask again:

Do you work in the medical field? Are you an M.D.? Or perhaps do you work for Moderna or Pfizer? Do you have any YouTube videos out or maybe a Twitter account that we can take a look at for educational purposes?

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

Well, based on your passion to have everyone vaccinated I wouldn't think you would associate with anyone who refuses the vaccine...and those people probably wouldn't want to associate with you either. And what group is fearmongering?...I guess the anti-vaxx organizations in this country? But keep in mind that anti-vaxxers are not dumb:

Someone can be affluent, educated and still dumb, to be clear. :)

And yes, there is a tremendous amount of fearmongering about the mRNA vaccines which are biochemically simple, tested in ph 3 trials, and show low toxicity even after 100s of millions of doses. It's enough for me to deem people buying into the hype as: dumb.