Seychelles, the world's most vaccinated nation, reimposes COVID-19 restrictions

DanM wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Hilarious to see the denier-fearmongers HOPING that vaccines don't work.

It's been true from the start: they cheer mass death.

False.

I merely question the wisdom of pushing a population wide experimental vaccine campaign when the overwhelming majority of infected people will experience little or no symptoms.

It's actually good that the experimental vaccines are there as an option for people in the highest risk groups.

You gleefully post stories of deaths, infections, and other stories with no attempt at critically reading the source or even making a cursory pass at judging causality.

At least this thread accidentally supports expansion of the mRNA vaccine supply. You can't even keep your story straight. Welcome to our side, I guess?

Remember when you said there wouldn't be any excess deaths in 2020? Care to comment?

Harambe wrote:

It's been true from the start: they cheer mass death.

Ah I remember fondly when a dead gorilla salivated with every death and projected death during early covid times. He shared his bloodthirsty fetish with a certain precious buddy.

The "ZPG" liberal technocrats are obsessed with reducing the population, especially in less developed countries. Their little errand boy here is using the rhetorical tool of projection, where you accuse the opposition of the exact goal that are hypocritically aiming for.

DanM wrote:...the overwhelming majority of infected people will experience little or no symptoms.

I've been on LRC a long time (nearly 20 years, +/-), and the place continues to surprise me with the breathtaking idiocy that emerges from time to time.

Presuming (?) you reside in the US, it is your inherited right to say whatever you like, whenever you like, and as often as you like, no matter how stupid, so don't let me get in your way, carry on...

Lhotse wrote:

Harambe wrote:

It's been true from the start: they cheer mass death.

Ah I remember fondly when a dead gorilla salivated with every death and projected death during early covid times. He shared his bloodthirsty fetish with a certain precious buddy.

The "ZPG" liberal technocrats are obsessed with reducing the population, especially in less developed countries. Their little errand boy here is using the rhetorical tool of projection, where you accuse the opposition of the exact goal that are hypocritically aiming for.

I am unsure on the dead gorilla's stance but I unironically want every person in those "less developed countrie" to immigrate to the USA make us #1 - definitely don't want them dead.

The world's most vaccinated nation is Gibraltar. They finished giving vaccines to everyone six weeks ago and they were better vaccines.

Lhotse wrote:

Harambe wrote:

It's been true from the start: they cheer mass death.

Ah I remember fondly when a dead gorilla salivated with every death and projected death during early covid times. He shared his bloodthirsty fetish with a certain precious buddy.

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Incorrect. I merely aimed to communicate the nonlinear risk associated. Tragically, I was correct, but it didn't take a genius to see... the deniers still struggle with 7th grade math it seems...

This is all rather moot for the Seychelles anyway. The islands are all going to be underwater in about a decade.

Harambe wrote:

Some vaccines work better than others.

Why is that?

Harambe wrote:

The scary mRNA tech seems to be the best.

Why is it the best? Is it safer than traditional vaccines? Is there any downside at all to mRNA technology used in vaccines?

Harambe wrote:

All this fearmongering of the "new" mRNA tech is actively harming acceptance of the most effective vaccines.

If the mRNA technology is the best, then why does the FDA allow the other non-mRNA vaccines to be used? It seems that if the FDA allows only the mRNA vaccines as the ones for Covid-19 that would help alleviate some of the fearmongering you keep complaining about.

Harambe wrote:

The USA beat COVID with the mRNA vaccines (or... is about to beat COVID, a few more million shots).

So, with just a "few more million shots" Covid would be eradicated in the U.S.? If that's the case, then the tens of millions who don't want the vaccine wouldn't need it and we can all go back to getting along again?

*Last question: Do you work in the medical field? Are you an M.D.? Or perhaps do you work for Moderna or Pfizer? Do you have any YouTube videos out or maybe a Twitter account that we can take a look at for educational purposes?

Why did the FDA allow Johnson and Johnson vaccine use to be authorized?

1) They wanted to get as many vaccines into as many arms as possible

2) Johnson and Johnson is more convenient—1 dose

3) Some people are just going to be scared of mRNA vaccines no matter what and so this gives them an option

4) proof of superiority is usually not required

5) mRNA vaccines have higher storage requirements

With all that said, I certainly think it’s pretty clear that if you want a vaccine that gives you the best protection against the virus, the mRNA vaccines are the cream of the crop

Generally the view is that you want to prove that it is not inferior to an unacceptable extent. Unacceptable is fairly machine

Inquiring minds want to know wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The USA beat COVID with the mRNA vaccines (or... is about to beat COVID, a few more million shots).

So, with just a "few more million shots" Covid would be eradicated in the U.S.? If that's the case, then the tens of millions who don't want the vaccine wouldn't need it and we can all go back to getting along again?

*Last question: Do you work in the medical field? Are you an M.D.? Or perhaps do you work for Moderna or Pfizer? Do you have any YouTube videos out or maybe a Twitter account that we can take a look at for educational purposes?

There is a big difference between eradicated and controlled.

Hesitancy is certainly slowing our path to beating COVID. I'll admit I underestimated the number of people who fell for the fearmongering propaganda.

People who fearmonger the vaccine are dumb. If you had the option to protect yourself and get us out of this mess but chose not to, I will think you're dumb for a very long time.

But, I don't usually associate with people who don't think for themselves, so I won't have to interact with many of the conspiracy-theory adolescents that do much of the fearmongering on here.

Hardloper wrote:

The world's most vaccinated nation is Gibraltar. They finished giving vaccines to everyone six weeks ago and they were better vaccines.

Supplied by the UK,because we make sure our overseas terrortories are looked after.How is Puerto Rico doing?

2600 bro wrote:

rerunner wrote:

There are lots of Indians in Seychelles. The Indian variant is resistant to existing vaccines. If they have free travel between India and Seychelles, they are screwed.

Australia on the other hand is promising jail time to anyone who arrives from India.

No the mRNA vaccines work very well against the Indian variant

Do you have data to back up this claim?

Machado wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

No the mRNA vaccines work very well against the Indian variant

Do you have data to back up this claim?

Neutralization in vitro - which has actually seemed to be a higher bar than prevention of disease in vivo.

Machado wrote:

Do you have data to back up this claim?

There's every reason the believe the mRNA vaccines will be protective -at the very least- against severe disease for major variants of concern for the considerable future.

Moderna just announced good results from their rapidly deployed booster trial. If worst comes to worst, a booster seems easy to do.

the idiot wrote:

DanM wrote:...the overwhelming majority of infected people will experience little or no symptoms.

I've been on LRC a long time (nearly 20 years, +/-), and the place continues to surprise me with the breathtaking idiocy that emerges from time to time.

Presuming (?) you reside in the US, it is your inherited right to say whatever you like, whenever you like, and as often as you like, no matter how stupid, so don't let me get in your way, carry on...

DanM is exactly right though, and you are whatever you call yourself

context wrote:

the idiot wrote:

I've been on LRC a long time (nearly 20 years, +/-), and the place continues to surprise me with the breathtaking idiocy that emerges from time to time.

Presuming (?) you reside in the US, it is your inherited right to say whatever you like, whenever you like, and as often as you like, no matter how stupid, so don't let me get in your way, carry on...

DanM is exactly right though, and you are whatever you call yourself

The distribution of symptoms is a relatively meaningless distraction from the fact that COVID is quite deadly and contagious. Viruses are contagious, in case you have forgotten

Harambe wrote:

Machado wrote:

Do you have data to back up this claim?

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1390079576907280384?s=20

There's every reason the believe the mRNA vaccines will be protective -at the very least- against severe disease for major variants of concern for the considerable future.

Moderna just announced good results from their rapidly deployed booster trial. If worst comes to worst, a booster seems easy to do.

Nice bro - great minds think alike. Here's some primary lit:

I cannot find data for the mRNA vax against the B.1.167 variant aside from Pfizer and Moderna claiming they "work well." Hopefully publication is coming soon.

Harambe wrote:

The distribution of symptoms is a relatively meaningless distraction from the fact that COVID is quite deadly and contagious. Viruses are contagious, in case you have forgotten

At no greater than 6 deaths per 1,000 infections, COVID is "quite deadly" ?

What is Ebola ? Super duper deadly ?