The Unkle wrote:
Africa has 4 times as many people as the USA but less then 20% of the Covid deaths.
Seems the hucksters don't care enuff about Africa to keep the fake numbers up
Or maybe the people dying in Africa aren't being recorded as diligently as the people in the USA. And it's definitely true that African countries are testing people at far lower rates than the USA.
olympic observer wrote:
weird situation, nobody pulls the plug
not surprising. The IOC already lost a lot of money and will lose more if the Games are cancelled. They will bet on the possibility that the Games will be successful and offer the world a beacon of light and hope and etc etc. Too much money at stake for them.
the Japanese seem to be going Kamikaze style. What benefit Japan will have? with no tourists, no public support and increasing cost. They could well cancel these Games. But culturally speaking this is something very, very hard for the Japanese to do. Even if they want, or need, they wont tell so the Games might well happen. The Japanese are also betting on the possibility that the Games will be successful and that will prove the strenght, honour or whatever of the Japanese people.
the question is - if this goes the wrong way. Who will take the blame for the tragedy that this might end up being.
According to today's post, Japan ranks 104th worst and USA 60th in per capita deaths
if the Olympic games were in USA, they would happen this year... 100% guaranteed, so I don't agree that is has anything to do with Japanese "kamikaze mentality" or culture. Money? yes, for sure
What 'tragedy' could happen? athletes getting sick or denied back home until after a 14 day quarantine? they know the risks and accept them by traveling to Japan, and I'm sure many of them prefer it, to skipping one whole Olympic cycle. Also many big events have had successful safety bubbles already
The Olympics will happen this year. There will be no new postponement nor cancellation. May not have fans, but the games will go on.
HobbyJogging wrote:
olympic observer wrote:
weird situation, nobody pulls the plug
not surprising. The IOC already lost a lot of money and will lose more if the Games are cancelled. They will bet on the possibility that the Games will be successful and offer the world a beacon of light and hope and etc etc. Too much money at stake for them.
the Japanese seem to be going Kamikaze style. What benefit Japan will have? with no tourists, no public support and increasing cost. They could well cancel these Games. But culturally speaking this is something very, very hard for the Japanese to do. Even if they want, or need, they wont tell so the Games might well happen. The Japanese are also betting on the possibility that the Games will be successful and that will prove the strenght, honour or whatever of the Japanese people.
the question is - if this goes the wrong way. Who will take the blame for the tragedy that this might end up being.
According to today's post, Japan ranks 104th worst and USA 60th in per capita deaths
if the Olympic games were in USA, they would happen this year... 100% guaranteed, so I don't agree that is has anything to do with Japanese "kamikaze mentality" or culture. Money? yes, for sure
What 'tragedy' could happen? athletes getting sick or denied back home until after a 14 day quarantine? they know the risks and accept them by traveling to Japan, and I'm sure many of them prefer it, to skipping one whole Olympic cycle. Also many big events have had successful safety bubbles already
you seem to have no idea of what the operations of Olympics looks like to compare with other "big events". It is a complete different story with the Olympics. It doesn't make any sense to say that just because this or that event happened, so the Olympics could.
Talking about tragedy. Well, let's see. How about an Athlete dying of Covid? Or even hospitalised.
That could well happen. How about competitions? Will they get postponed if theres a spread of infection within a team? There are just no window in the Olympics to do it. Schedules are tight. And Athletes is not the biggest issue. The "Olympic friends and family", all the media, broadcasters, technical officials, referees, International Federations involved. Yes they will be less than usual, a lot less, but still massive population. Nobody will get infected you think? And if they will what are the chances that eventually there are fatal cases?
You dont seem to realise but Olympics are very much influenced by the media narrative. They choose how much of the world will perceive these Games to be. And you have to agree that the Olympic brand has suffered quite some damage in the last decade at least with the corruption scandals and especially the rising costs (over $30 billion in Tokyo!)
In reality it is very easy to realise. The Olympics will maybe happen, yes. They will maybe be successful, yes. But things could go off the rails quite easily. And the damage it could cause to the brand is enormous.
not a good day in the Olympic host nation
Cases up 392% from March lows
Cases up 20% over last 7 days
(USA cases down 15% over last 7 days)
Deaths up 140% from March lows
Deaths up 35% over last 7 days
(USA deaths down 3% over last 7 days)
Japan ranked 103rd worst (1st being worst) in per capita deaths last 7 days, going in wrong direction
USA ranked 62d worst, going in right direction.
1.80% of the Japanese population has had at least one shot
USA: 42.4% of the population has had at least one shot
No real change in the curve in Japan - still getting worse.
Remarkable that Japan is so much safer than the US, despite our massive lead in vaccinations.
Americans are truly bad at taking care of each other. Although Japan being an island does help them stay safe, I'm sure.
Cases up 394% from March lows
Cases up 18% over last 7 days
(USA cases -15% last 7 days)
Deaths up 145% from March lows
Deaths up 43% last 7 days
(USA deaths down 2% over last 7 days)
Japan ranked 114th worst (1st being worst) in per capita cases last 7 days. (USA much worse: 64th worst)
Japan ranked 106th worst (1st being worst) in per capita deaths last 7 days, going in right direction (USA much worse: 64th worst)
1.80% at least one shot vs USA 42.4% at least one shot
84 days until the opening ceremonies.
The curve seems to be flattening in Japan. The nation is still getting worse but at a slower rate. That's good news.
Cases up 402% from March lows
Cases up 14% over last 7 days
(USA down 15% last 7 days)
Deaths up 145% from March lows
Deaths up 145% from March lows
(USA down 3% over last 7 days)
Japan ranked 113th worst (1st being the worst) in per capita deaths last 7 days
(USA ranked a much worst 64th worst)
Japan ranked 110th worst (1st being worst) in per capita deaths over last 7 days
(USA ranked a much worse 60th)
2.0% at least one shot vs USA 43.0% at least one shot
81 days until opening ceremonies
The curve keeps on flattening in the host nation, slowly. Good news. Hope it speeds up.
Cases up 410% from March lows
Cases up 9% over last 7 days
(USA Cases down 15% over last 7 days)
Deaths up 170% from March lows
Deaths up 32% over last 7 days
(USA deaths down 1% over last 7 days)
Japan ranked 110th worst (1st being worst) in per capita cases last 7 days
(USA ranked 61st worst)
Japan ranked 113th worst (1st being worst) in per capita deaths last 7 days
(USA ranked 61st worst)
2.0% at leat one shot vs USA 43.0% at least one shot
It sounds like the Japenese aren't going to be able to get their $hit together to get this done.
Give the games to Texas or Florida and let the Americans get it done.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
It sounds like the Japenese aren't going to be able to get their $hit together to get this done.
Give the games to Texas or Florida and let the Americans get it done.
not sure you understand per capita rankings.
The USA ranks far worse than Japan in both per capita deaths and per capita cases.
In other words, Japan is doing far better than we are in managing the plague.
So why do you say move the games to FL or TX?
They need to just cancel the fringe sports. Apologize to Buffy that the dressage competition is not going to be held and move on.
Track, swimming, gymnastics, maybe soccer. That's all anyone needs.
The Unkle wrote:
Africa has 4 times as many people as the USA but less then 20% of the Covid deaths.
Seems the hucksters don't care enuff about Africa to keep the fake numbers up
Who the hell travels to Africa? The US has more visitors, legal aliens, and illegal aliens than any other country on Earth. I wonder why the numbers are so high ...
There are zero cases on North Sentinel Island. Clearly the inhabitants are the world's experts when it comes to communicable diseases, especially Covid. Best disease research labs in the world are located there.
agip wrote:
energeticlotuseater wrote:
It sounds like the Japenese aren't going to be able to get their $hit together to get this done.
Give the games to Texas or Florida and let the Americans get it done.
not sure you understand per capita rankings.
The USA ranks far worse than Japan in both per capita deaths and per capita cases.
In other words, Japan is doing far better than we are in managing the plague.
So why do you say move the games to FL or TX?
Three reasons I say move it to Texas or Florida
1) Texas and Florida are completely open right now so they will be able to start getting ready for the games without being handcuffed with social distancing and other COVID restrictions.
2) Texas particularly has the athletic infrastructure to host the games with many world class athletic facilities already existing across the state. The United States also has the wealth to add any athletic stadiums deemed necessary at a very fast rate.
3) The United States is vaccinating its population much faster than Japan. I believe 43% of the United States has vaccinated its population while only 2% of the Japanese population is vaccinated. By the time July rolls around it's fair to believe we will have the vast majority of the American public vaccinated (70%+) and anyone who wants the vaccine would be able to get it very very easily.
At this point the Japanese are paralyzed by their own indecision and simply can't get out of their own way.
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