Fermin Cacho closed the 92 Barcelona 1500m in 50 seconds

khomenia wrote:

Does it count as greatest when it’s pharmaceutically induced?

Never mind that, does it count as greatest coming off a 2:06 start?

Standard Setter wrote:

BTW, what was that Moroccan's final 400m? I had him at 2:50.2 and he rallied for perhaps bronze?

Its Rashid Labsir, he got the silver medal in OG 1992.

He is the husband of the famous 400m Hurdles runner Nezha Bidouane.

big daddy cacho wrote:

Is this the greatest finishing kick ever?

Rui Silva close 2004 final in sub 50.

ferdtorkelson wrote:

big daddy cacho wrote:

Is this the greatest finishing kick ever?

Rui Silva close 2004 final in sub 50.

Only wins count.

Bad Wigins wrote:

khomenia wrote:

Does it count as greatest when it’s pharmaceutically induced?

Never mind that, does it count as greatest coming off a 2:06 start?

these things matter, but he closed a 50 to finish with a 3:40. a respectable time. Much better than what centro did.

you are not going to see a guy close in 50 to run a 3:30. So what 1500 close is better? I am admittingly lacking in this kind of information. And I don't think it's fair to compare closes from different race distances.

Speedy Gonzalez, wrote:

ferdtorkelson wrote:

Rui Silva close 2004 final in sub 50.

Only wins count.

Tell that to Rui Silva.

I bet if brazier jogged 1100m he could close in 48

Sui Rilva wrote:

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"Tell that to Rui Silva."

Of course he's happy, he's the first non doped.

So doping only gets you half-step advantage? Interesting. And you can celebrate while running sub-50 non-doped just like we think those who are doped can do? Interesting. Level playing field for all.

Inside Information wrote:

Of course he's happy, he's the first non doped.

Standard Setter wrote:

So doping only gets you half-step advantage? Interesting. And you can celebrate while running sub-50 non-doped just like we think those who are doped can do? Interesting. Level playing field for all.

Inside Information wrote:

Of course he's happy, he's the first non doped.

Yeah, because everyone who runs fast usually dies after they cross the line.

Moron.

Sui Rilva wrote:

Speedy Gonzalez, wrote:

Only wins count.

Tell that to Rui Silva.

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I did.

Sui Rilva wrote:

Moron.

morAn.

I don't think the winning of the Gold Medal 1500m (1992) was du to doping, but the race was tactical extremely slow. This is the reason why there were some surprise like the Moroccan Rashid El Bassir who was only considered as an outsider before the final.

(I apologize he is not the husband of Bidouane but I confused him with Abdelaziz Saher which was a 1500m / 3000m steeple runner).

I only say "Moran" wrote:

Sui Rilva wrote:

Moron.

morAn.

I stand corrected.

This is it, the kind of post that keeps me coming to LRC.

Spainflyer wrote:

big daddy cacho wrote:

Why on earth did that fellow let Cacho pass on the inside with 200 to go?

I've seen that last lap several times, and always wondered why Cacho looked over his shoulder so often, even when he had 4-5 meters on the field. Now that I've seen the whole race again, it turns out that it is a tic - he does it through the first three laps, too. Or a tactic to tell the competition to stay away, give him room, no mishaps. And perhaps that tactic helped him get through on the inside.

EPO affected his CNS.

Morceli looking like a frustrated caged animal the last lap.

Seeing Cacho on the podium in retrospect I am struck by how much he resembled Robbie Andrews.

100% on the Robbie Andrews comparison. The strife and form similarity (and kick) is compelling g.

How quickly this sport went from Bannister, Herb Elliott, Snell....to this level of dirtiness and corruption.

close in 37.57, almost Ryunesque, and the last 800m was around 1:47. The tape cut just before the 1100m mark. But to compare with Jim Ryun, the former closed a 3:38 in 36 (50 last lap) on a chewed up dirt track, while Cacho closed a 3:40 in 37.6/50 on Mondo. Sizeable edge to Ryun, who did all his work the last 300m and didn't even have anyone in sight most of the way.