29 years old. Hope he's all right and can still play baseball.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/09/yankees-gio-urshela-out-due-to-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
29 years old. Hope he's all right and can still play baseball.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/09/yankees-gio-urshela-out-due-to-covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
Wow.
MSM generally does not publish anything negative about the vaccine
[quote]2600 bro wrote:
The anti-vaxxers just moves the goalposts as to what "long term effects" means. It's been a year of COVID-19 vaccines trials so they choose 3 years. At 3 years they will say 5 years. at 20 years they will say 50 years.
Who cares that 99% of adverse events to vaccines happen in the short-term (1-2 weeks).
And you know this how? Crystal ball?
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
PRAYTELL?
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405
Since you've all disappeared, I'll spell out how the US is also at this point. The vaccine rate below is from the CDC, the previous infection estimate is conservative based on several sources, and the natural immunity number also comes from the CDC. One need not be "fully-vaccinated" to be clear enough for herd immunity, one shot still is about 90 percent effective overall. Even knocking down each number drastically, the US is still far, far beyond the herd immunity level.
Vaccination: 115 million
Previous infection: 80 million
Natural immunity: 105 million
300 million is pretty close to the US population of 330 million, isn't it?
The Unkle wrote:
Wow.
MSM generally does not publish anything negative about the vaccine
possible aches for a day...wow!
Why do members of the vaccine religion demand that everybody be on board with their Doctrine of Salvation?
Suppose only 50% of the U.S. elects to get vaccinated.
Already, 50%+ of the U.S. has been exposed to COVID-19 and developed natural immunity.
80%+ of the population, due to previous exposure to non-COVID-19 coronaviruses, had natural T-cells that ward off COVID-19.
80%+ of the population will experience zero or minor symptoms from a COVID-19 infection.
99.9%+ of the population will survive a COVID-19 infection in the absense of prior immunity.
That means, assuming random overlap between the above groups, that 99%+ of the population will not get "sick" from COVID-19. Getting 75% of the population convinced to take the vaccine as opposed to 50% has a neglible effect on the entire situtation.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
PRAYTELL?
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk-set-to-reach-herd-immunity-milestone-within-days-say-scientists-12269405Since you've all disappeared, I'll spell out how the US is also at this point. The vaccine rate below is from the CDC, the previous infection estimate is conservative based on several sources, and the natural immunity number also comes from the CDC. One need not be "fully-vaccinated" to be clear enough for herd immunity, one shot still is about 90 percent effective overall. Even knocking down each number drastically, the US is still far, far beyond the herd immunity level.
Vaccination: 115 million
Previous infection: 80 million
Natural immunity: 105 million
300 million is pretty close to the US population of 330 million, isn't it?
So the UK set a threshold at 73% or whatever. Experts here expect it to be higher.
This doesn't matter really for policy making as theoretical thresholds are not going to change policy that much. Actual trends in deaths, hospitalizations, and cases well. Things look pretty good in the USA and the US so far.
You have constructed a artificial situation and gotten angry about it. Standard deniers stuff.
Also, pray tell, who are the 105 million people in the US (33% of the population) who are "naturally immune" to SARS-CoV-2?
jamin wrote:
80%+ of the population, due to previous exposure to non-COVID-19 coronaviruses, had natural T-cells that ward off COVID-19.
The citizens of Manaus are asking for sources here...
Jamin, stay in your lane of dating Ukrainian women :)
Anthony Aho wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
Wow.
MSM generally does not publish anything negative about the vaccine
possible aches for a day...wow!
He will not play in the 3 games vs. Tampa.
Go to reddit with your doom and gloom crap.
Covid is over.
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
So the UK set a threshold at 73% or whatever. Experts here expect it to be higher.
This doesn't matter really for policy making as theoretical thresholds are not going to change policy that much. Actual trends in deaths, hospitalizations, and cases well. Things look pretty good in the USA and the US so far.
You have constructed a artificial situation and gotten angry about it. Standard deniers stuff.
Also, pray tell, who are the 105 million people in the US (33% of the population) who are "naturally immune" to SARS-CoV-2?
Go to reddit with your doom and gloom crap.
Covid is over.[/quote]
Obviously I agree as I think the vaccines are working amazingly well.
We don't need to bundle this optimism with falsehoods or misdirection to drum up anger at local governments.
105 million people are not "naturally immune" to COVID in the USA.
We are close to herd immunity but have tons of chains of transmissions still going AND likely need 20% + of the population vaccinated still (I estimate ~50-55% of the US population is immune).
Basically, there is plenty of reason to be optimistic and also not be weirdly aggressively wrong. I encourage you to try it
jamin wrote:
Already, 50%+ of the U.S. has been exposed to COVID-19 and developed natural immunity.
[citation needed]
🤣🤣🤣
You are really dumb, fool.
jamin wrote:
80%+ of the population, due to previous exposure to non-COVID-19 coronaviruses, had natural T-cells that ward off COVID-19.
Meant to quote this one.
Yes, major [citation needed]
The Unkle wrote:
Absolutely. I have no fear of the virus.
Didn't know those people existed. Haven't heard from anyone who didn't have major health issues that had a real bout with the vaccine. Meanwhile, have heard about COVID kicking the butt of numerous normally healthy people.
Experts say we won't know the long term effects after years of study. Harambe/Bro2600 say, we just know without doing the long term studies so trust us. I get it, you are the experts and the ones deciding which experts are the experts. Good job morons.
We will not know until we have long term studies. We have no, zero, long term studies of mRNA vaccines in healthy people. This is a fact. We may know now that the vaccines do not generally outright kill people, only sometimes, but it will be many years before we know if they have and do not have serious long term health effects. Anyone demanding otherwise is a liar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlinesJoe Klecker's bald spot wrote:
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3563
T-cell X-reactivity doesn't mean there is sterilizing or even substantial immunity. It's possible there is some immunity out there but we clearly don't know enough to be making policy from such assumptions.
Also, such immunity didn't prevent 500k excess deaths so what good is it?
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