Paul Spangler run off as Boston U distance coach

Not sure what you're trying to imply, I certainly can't name anyone that fits your description. Spangler is one of the best distance coaches I ever had the opportunity to work with. Great guy, excellent coach. Just look at his resume' or talk to his current/former athletes if you need to hear more about his skill and character. (Former Gator btw)

nust a juy wrote:

Sanders is probably the best young sprints coach in the country.

This is laughable. His teams got pounded in the America East by Albany. His teams got crushed once he joined the Patriot League. The women did well in 2014 because none of the other schools in the league had scholarships. Then they got beat handily in 2015 before he left.

He was talking trash when he got hired as director at BU. He was going around bragging about how his athletes were going to score a certain number of points in his events. His men were 5th indoors with 43 points while Navy won the meet with 245. His women were 3rd with 111 points, about half came from distance events. Navy won with 204.

Houdini wrote:

Why do posts keep disappearing in this thread? ...

...All the inflammatory posts remain. Am I missing something???

Posts are getting deleted by the letsrun monitors pretty frequently for including false and/or inflammatory information. I think some also got taken down because the OPs didn't read background info before posting, which meant their statements were inaccurate. There are still some inflammatory comments on the thread that haven't been removed, but it's an improvement from yesterday. There was a significant amount of trolling from uninformed posters who sought to cause conflict, which had heated up the thread. Keep in mind, if a troll's post is removed, the replies stay, but lack the content of the original post unless included in quotes. You might be missing some of the essential context because some of that was removed as well for containing such quotes.

Seems like a loss for BU distance

I remember when Paul Spangler was coach at VMI and did a great job conducting a high school invite for several years back in 2005-5. Dedicated and meticulous and athlete/coach friendly

And the fact that he coached Cory McGee - but as others have said director has right to hire and fire their assistants, so again tough loss for BU distance.

nust a juy wrote:

Sanders is probably the best young sprints coach in the country. Whether you think him firing Spangler is ok or not, Boston hired him over Spangler to be director and he absolutely can fire and hire staff.

This is such a silly thread. Bosses get paid to make boss decisions. Gabe is an excellent coach. Whether he fails or succeeds at BU it’s HIS program to administrate how he sees fit. Such a dumb thread.

In any other sport all the assistants go when the Head coach goes anyway.

You’re right. It is his program and he needs to make boss decisions. People are most upset about the way he went about it. He had total disregard for his athletes through the process. He’s going to have to live with the fallout of how he treated those involved.

Gabe Sanders Retweeted

BU Track and Field & Cross Country

@TerrierTFXC

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Mar 8

We're proud to announce that Andrea Claeson has qualified for the NCAA Cross Country Championship!

https://goterriers.com/news/2021/3/8/womens-cross-country-claeson-qualifies-for-ncaa-cross-country-championship.aspx

So Paul Spangler is gone before his athlete even competes at the national championship?

This is a Boston Massacre. Some athletes need to speak up on the record.

nust a juy wrote:

Sanders is probably the best young sprints coach in the country. Whether you think him firing Spangler is ok or not, Boston hired him over Spangler to be director and he absolutely can fire and hire staff.

This is such a silly thread. Bosses get paid to make boss decisions. Gabe is an excellent coach. Whether he fails or succeeds at BU it’s HIS program to administrate how he sees fit. Such a dumb thread.

In any other sport all the assistants go when the Head coach goes anyway.

Found Sanders everybody. Only he could claim something as ridiculously boastful as this. Have fun continuing to tank a historic program. Newsflash sprinting in the northeast is a waste of time.

I'm not sure what happened between Sanders and Spangler behind the scenes. Only time will tell whether this separation will work out for Sanders/BU.

It's a fair point that Sanders was chosen as director over Spangler - although without knowledge about what happened behind the scene I don't think we should speculate too heavily. Hopefully the situation with the distance side at BU doesn't get too volatile over this situation. I don't know if it would be too late to salvage this all for Spangler's former athletes, but the right choice of a replacements could be a good reconciliation moving forward. If they could find their next Bruce Lehane, so to speak.

hinckleybear wrote:

Gabe Sanders Retweeted

BU Track and Field & Cross Country

@TerrierTFXC

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Mar 8

We're proud to announce that Andrea Claeson has qualified for the NCAA Cross Country Championship!

https://goterriers.com/news/2021/3/8/womens-cross-country-claeson-qualifies-for-ncaa-cross-country-championship.aspx

I think you forgot to add more than the copy/paste from twitter, so I'm going to fill in some of the missing context.

This tweet was posted to all BU athletics/track & field social media pages and websites, but was abruptly removed with no explanation provided. The post then re-emerged after about 60 people uploaded the image to their individual social media pages, while tagging BU athletics in the process, to ensure Andrea received proper recognition. There has been some speculation that BU athletics was not going to allow Andrea to compete at nationals (due to Covid-19 restrictions or other reasons), and was trying to prevent the public from learning of her achievement, but it seems the athletes forced their hand if this was the case.

The only public recognition Andrea received from Sanders was a retweet, in which no commentary or praise was added. The handful of re-posts by BU athletes that I saw included significantly more effort than this. Even if this was a positive example, a single act of praise in public does not rectify a pattern of behavior in private. My contact corroborated the information provided by "t-party" and "youreallidiots," and expressed similar frustrations.

*Note: the retweet happened after the post was taken down and re-uploaded

Two women from BUXC also retweeted this post, but took the time to add their own content.

MilesOfAsics wrote:

Newsflash sprinting in the northeast is a waste of time.

Well that’s a ridiculous thing to say.

ChrisLewis82 wrote:

It appears the information was deliberately withheld from the athletes until after the transfer deadline, thereby preventing any athletes from leaving until next spring at the earliest.

There is no transfer deadline. They still have plenty of time to get on the portal and move for next fall.

Money is tight around the country, but given how expensive the tuition is at BU, any scholarship runners there who are running well could likely transfer and pay less for school if they are willing to move out of the region.

I really don’t see many of the BU athletes transferring. They really seem to me like students first, athletes second, and BU is a great place to be academically. Running isn’t their lives like an SEC or ACC kid might be. They’ll find a way to thrive, the team culture (like, within the team, not with the coach and stuff lol) there strikes me as a good one before all this. I think they’ll want to stick with the good group of teammates they’ve got rather than leaving a crappy situation with coaching.

Go get em Terriers. Also, lets get some more of your grads on the local road scene post graduation, Ashe is getting old.

Paying the price of not having a coach is one thing. Paying the price of having a tyrant who treats the athletes with no respect is another. I hope Sanders’ reign of terror ends soon for the program’s sake. All these athletes deserve to be treated better - like how Spangler treated them.

wallerone wrote:

It's a fair point that Sanders was chosen as director over Spangler - although without knowledge about what happened behind the scene I don't think we should speculate too heavily. Hopefully the situation with the distance side at BU doesn't get too volatile over this situation. I don't know if it would be too late to salvage this all for Spangler's former athletes, but the right choice of a replacements could be a good reconciliation moving forward. If they could find their next Bruce Lehane, so to speak.

Maybe they could find their next Paul Spangler.

Go take a look at the regional and National meet every year 100-400. It shows that sprints in the northeast are in fact a waste of time.

DontBeStupidPlease wrote:

start earlier wrote:

This Spangler guy only took up running at age 67! Seems a little late for someone to try and establish themselves as a coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Spangler

You are a complete moron. You took the time to google Paul Spangler, but didn't take the time to see that the guy you're referring to died in 1994 and would be 122 years old if still alive. Get off the internet if you have nothing intelligent to contribute.

My case in point! 122 years old is way too old to be coaching young people. He should have been fired!