10:30 pm ET tonight. BTC at Sound Running Invite- Official Discussion Thread

Very weird to me that - Schumacher athletes aside - professional athletes are so bad at running assigned paces. Before 5Ks the story of the meet was how bad the rabbits were, tanking opportunities for Olympic qualifying times. Yes it's March but these athletes are for the most part race sharp and were here for times.

Even the womens 5K suffered from bad (absent) rabbits and was only saved by Sisson. Most of the Qs came from the group she dragged through.

Mens 5K was fantastic. The sub-13 was always a bit of a moonshot and running 63s was going to benefit a lot more of the guys in the field so it worked out about as well as it could have. Scott did not look on top of his game throughout - it happens - so tonight was not the night for him anyway. Great runs from Fisher, Klecker, Kincaid (who could've finished and run <13:05), and Hoare (who died hard but stuck his nose in it. That aggressiveness bore fruit over 1500 in NYC and will pay off over time). McGorty was clearly ready for this after looking so good pacing through 8km a few weeks ago, surprised he did not finish that race as there are so few good 10K opportunities and 8K on the track doesn't really fvck you up much less than a ten.

I think it may have had less viewers because it was later, that's all. The Texas meet was around 8-9pm eastern but this was around 10-12 PM.

JamesD2 wrote:

It looked like there were fewer viewers of the stream this week than last week, even though the fields were much better. Any ideas why?

Also, I'm probably in a minority of one, but I liked the setup where fans could contribute to bump up the prize money. Seemed a bit cheesy, but I doubt the winners will complain about making an extra couple of hundred $, and it's a way to let fans engage.

Just reading through the thread now so someone may have replied already but it’s definitely because of the time. 11pm ET for a meet is late. I didn’t watch it live because I had to get up at 5am. That and I feel like it wasn’t advertised as well. I didn’t even know it was free on YouTube until last night when my girlfriend told me. Granted I didn’t look for the meet, but I didn’t look for the Texas Qualifier and I saw plenty of advertisements for that.

the statistician wrote:

I think it may have had less viewers because it was later, that's all. The Texas meet was around 8-9pm eastern but this was around 10-12 PM.

Yeah, didn't watch this one live but caught up this morning.

I thought the commentating was alright, certainly Merber was very good. Merrill isn't my favourite (too much meme humor for my taste). Allie O was fine after she settled in a bit. Overall solid production.

Sisson looks strong. Figuring out who is competing in which events at the women's trials is going to be interesting. I guess BTC could hold their cards for quite a while.

Sure seems that Cranny's future lies in the 5000 and 10,000 after yesterday, right?

I think she recently posted a joke about how she considered herself a 1500 runner and Jerry was having her run the 10,000, but I think she has a way easier Olympic path in the longer events.

Assuming Purrier and Houlihan both run the 1500, I can't see Cranny beating either of them, and then there is a cadre of others -- Sinclaire Johnson, Cory McGee, Shannon Rowbury, Jenny Simpson -- that I would imagine are running the 1500 and would have to be favored over Elise. Not sure what Schweizer et al will run. In the 5000, Cranny has the 4th fastest time in the country after Houlihan, Schweizer, and Rowbury. I think she would be pretty clearly favored over everyone else that might run it, unless there is a wild card like Simpson deciding to run the 5000. It does seem that Cranny has really caught up to Schweizer as well so she could very well beat Karissa. She has a decent shot if she runs the 5000. In the 10,000, I think she has the #1 US time in this cycle. She'd be heavily favored to make the team.

I'd say from easiest to toughest to qualify, it'd go 10,000, then 5,000, with the 1,500 by far the steepest hill to climb. Plus, she doesn't have the 1500 standard, and hasn't come within 1.5s of it. Not sure if there are any other opportunities to hit it before the Trials.

I know she believes herself to be a 1500m runner, but perhaps she'll let go of that? The Oly Trials schedule is pretty rough if she decides to go for a double -- the 10,000 would be 2.5hrs after the first round of the 1500. She could definitely do the 1500/5000 double pretty easily, but then she'd be sacrificing her easiest path to Tokyo.

10,000 & 5,000 seems pretty ideal -- focus on your easiest path, bank a T3 finish, have basically a week of rest until the 5,000 for a bonus. Or, if she misses the 10,000, enough time to come back a week later and give it a go.

Sorry if this was covered but what happened to Molly Huddle and Eilish? Eilish was looking very strong

Jeff Merrill was good / acceptable on the post race interviews. He was abysmal on the race callings. I haven't listen to his podcast but will give it a try.

She has such a huge base she could easily double the 1,500 and 5,000 at the Trials and just see which team she makes. 1,500 is Days 1, 2, and 4. 5,000 is on Days 7 and 10. I imagine a lot of women will be doubling these two events. There will also be lot doubling the 5,000 and 10,000 since the 10,000 is on Day 1.

Alternative point, the 5,000 field will literally feature every single good US female distance runner. There will be extremely good runners who don't make the team.

JBaller33 wrote:

Alternative point, the 5,000 field will literally feature every single good US female distance runner. There will be extremely good runners who don't make the team.

Yeah, that's why I'm thinking the 10,000 / 5,000 double is a better bet than the 1,500 and either of the other events. 5,000 is just too competitive, she doesn't have the standard in the 1500, and the 10,000 is first.