Clayton Murphy is DONE

Kind of off topic, but imagine if USA got a medal sweep in the 800! That’d be so cool.

I think brazier and hoppel are both in contention, and if this really was just a fluke race, Murphy could possibly get there too!

Pretty cold to declare Murphy done after one race. That said, Rojo's comment about Murphy's consistency is true. But that's the problem. Murphy consistently runs sub-1:44 but he hasn't improved. First Brazier surpassed him, now it looks like Hoppel has. When you're an older runner and start losing to younger runners you're in trouble. Murphy looks like the third best American 800 runner now, but by the Trials I can easily some young stud college runner emerging and beating him.

I don’t know man... watching the race, it almost seems like Murphy isn’t all out at the end, like, either this race wasn’t important to him or he’s not in great shape yet and knew he didn’t have it today. Did anyone else get that feeling? It didn’t seem like he was “all in” at the end. Hopefully, he’s just warming up...

Said he tweaked something before race.

Les wrote:

Pretty cold to declare Murphy done after one race. That said, Rojo's comment about Murphy's consistency is true. But that's the problem. Murphy consistently runs sub-1:44 but he hasn't improved. First Brazier surpassed him, now it looks like Hoppel has. When you're an older runner and start losing to younger runners you're in trouble. Murphy looks like the third best American 800 runner now, but by the Trials I can easily some young stud college runner emerging and beating him.

I can’t stand seeing people write off Murphy, because it always sounds like people are claiming he’s not the same person who ran in Rio. I don’t know all the ongoings, but I do know this; when Murphy chooses to focus on the 1500, his 800 declines, but once he’s in a championship, he’s as sharp as ever. Look at 2018 and 2019 USAs, plus his rounds throughout Doha. In the 2019 trials he ran a poor race and still managed to close nearly as fast as Brazier( 50.6 vs 50.9 I think). With the exception of the Doha final, Murphy’s been pretty consistent and reliable in finals.

As far as the race for third at this year’s trials, I think we may end up with something similar to the 1984 trials. In that race not only did it take an American record to win, but James Robinson and John Marshall both ran 1:43.9 in what ended up being a fight for 3rd. I don’t know if the finals will end up like that, but I’m sure the caliber of athletes will be equal or better. With Devin Dixon and Isaiah Harris both improving and moving towards 1:43, I could see a scenario happening where 1:43 only gets you 5th.

Clayton got HUMBLED today. Is it just me or does he come across Super arrogant.

He needs to run a 1500 soon.

Statistician ruler wrote:

Said he tweaked something before race.

This, his Twitter says he tweaked something pre-race. He really hasn’t improved since 2016, but I think he still has a shot at the Olympic team.

forked wrote:

1:48 for last. Hoppel runs 1:44.

Can’t believe USA won’t even miss him in Tokyo but us men’s 800 is stacked now.

Wasn't in 2012 when Mo Farah lost an indoor race to a teenager with one shoe then doubled in the Olympics?

Hoppelong Cassidy wrote:

Murphy changed training groups/coaches. He got married, and he got lazy. It will take some real work for him to make the Oly team.

He got injured.

It's an indoor meet. He was in the race to 600m. No problems. Looked good.

If we're going to go after Murphy for running 1:48 in January, what should we say about DeGrasse running a 6.79 60m last week?

Russke wrote:

Clayton got HUMBLED today. Is it just me or does he come across Super arrogant.

Yeah he seemed less cocky before 2016.

Then he got cocky and thinks he's the man, while Brazier has been smoking him and Hoppel is obv gonna drop the hammer on him too.

fahrenheit452 wrote:

So what if he IS done? He's got an Olympic bronze medal. How many American middle distance runners can say that? That's a career.

He's done when he decides he's done

If he is still racing, he has not decided he is done.

Cheetahspeed wrote:

If we're going to go after Murphy for running 1:48 in January, what should we say about DeGrasse running a 6.79 60m last week?

Or Fred Kerley running a 45?

These beginning-of-the-season rust busters don't mean sh!t.

I have it on good word from the higher ups that Murphy has been dropped from Nike and will be announcing his retirement shortly

Murphy is now in Ohio with Lee correct? He'll get him straightened out. Question about another Ohio-born: Where TF is Drew Windle? He's pretty quiet on social media, didn't do much in the spring/summer, anyone have any news/predictions here or do you guys think he's not in the running for a Tokyo performance?

JRinaldi wrote:

Devon Dixon

Devin Dixon will run really fast as long as he doesn't have to race anybody.

God-Emperor Trump wrote:

I have it on good word from the higher ups that Murphy has been dropped from Nike and will be announcing his retirement shortly

You're an idiot.

"Good word from the higher ups" - yeah okay. Just another troll trying to pretend they know more than they actually do.