Nobody - not even Dems - wants to be associated with the Democratic party anymore.
Nobody - not even Dems - wants to be associated with the Democratic party anymore.
Santiago Stephenn wrote:
Nobody - not even Dems - wants to be associated with the Democratic party anymore.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/07/19/axios-anyone-else-notice-dems-running-away-from-their-party-n403116/amp
Like RATS fleeing a sinking ship.
News of the markets' tanking yesterday helped me realize that there are substantial numbers of Americans who--because of the party currently holding the White House and majorities in Congress--simply *don't want* the economy to recover; *don't want* Covid-19 under control in this country; *don't want* America to return to something resembling normality.
Until the 2022 and/or 2024 elections are past, those people *do want* a hiccuping economy with long-term inflation; *do want* to be able to say that more Americans died of Covid on Biden's watch than on Trump's; *do want* a large portion of the population to be frustrated and angry. And if the price of that is misery for millions and death for thousands? Well, you can't make an omelet without cracking an egg or two amirite?
So, sure, they'll continue to foster vaccine skepticism/resistance--though many have quietly been vaccinated themselves--because they see that as the surest route to getting the things they want. The sheer meanspiritedness of such a cynical attitude is breathtaking, but hardly a surprise: The current GOP has fostered and rewarded that meanspiritedness, that wishing others ill, for decades now. But it makes me sad.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Should Pelosi veto any of the five?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/politics/house-republicans-chosen-for-january-6-committee/index.html
I forgot that she could. If any of them have already clearly denied/contradicted any undeniable facts about the event, sure.
And, if we lived in a reasonable country, that litmus test ought to apply to them having been clearly irrational/dishonest about just about anything else of any substance. But currently, that would probably disqualify WAY too many Rs, so maybe, "politically," she ought not go that route.
nonequals wrote:
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Should Pelosi veto any of the five?
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/19/politics/house-republicans-chosen-for-january-6-committee/index.htmlI forgot that she could. If any of them have already clearly denied/contradicted any undeniable facts about the event, sure.
And, if we lived in a reasonable country, that litmus test ought to apply to them having been clearly irrational/dishonest about just about anything else of any substance. But currently, that would probably disqualify WAY too many Rs, so maybe, "politically," she ought not go that route.
It might make sense to veto anyone who is a potential witness.
kibitzer wrote:
News of the markets' tanking yesterday helped me realize that there are substantial numbers of Americans who--because of the party currently holding the White House and majorities in Congress--simply *don't want* the economy to recover; *don't want* Covid-19 under control in this country; *don't want* America to return to something resembling normality.
Until the 2022 and/or 2024 elections are past, those people *do want* a hiccuping economy with long-term inflation; *do want* to be able to say that more Americans died of Covid on Biden's watch than on Trump's; *do want* a large portion of the population to be frustrated and angry. And if the price of that is misery for millions and death for thousands? Well, you can't make an omelet without cracking an egg or two amirite?
So, sure, they'll continue to foster vaccine skepticism/resistance--though many have quietly been vaccinated themselves--because they see that as the surest route to getting the things they want. The sheer meanspiritedness of such a cynical attitude is breathtaking, but hardly a surprise: The current GOP has fostered and rewarded that meanspiritedness, that wishing others ill, for decades now. But it makes me sad.
The more reason to kill the filibuster and give the party with majority power to carry out some of their agenda without unlimited obstruction. On the bright side, history shows that when Ds are in power the country doesn’t go to $hit so expect an easy re-election win for Bada$$ Biden.
Trollminator wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
News of the markets' tanking yesterday helped me realize that there are substantial numbers of Americans who--because of the party currently holding the White House and majorities in Congress--simply *don't want* the economy to recover; *don't want* Covid-19 under control in this country; *don't want* America to return to something resembling normality.
Until the 2022 and/or 2024 elections are past, those people *do want* a hiccuping economy with long-term inflation; *do want* to be able to say that more Americans died of Covid on Biden's watch than on Trump's; *do want* a large portion of the population to be frustrated and angry. And if the price of that is misery for millions and death for thousands? Well, you can't make an omelet without cracking an egg or two amirite?
So, sure, they'll continue to foster vaccine skepticism/resistance--though many have quietly been vaccinated themselves--because they see that as the surest route to getting the things they want. The sheer meanspiritedness of such a cynical attitude is breathtaking, but hardly a surprise: The current GOP has fostered and rewarded that meanspiritedness, that wishing others ill, for decades now. But it makes me sad.
The more reason to kill the filibuster and give the party with majority power to carry out some of their agenda without unlimited obstruction. On the bright side, history shows that when Ds are in power the country doesn’t go to $hit so expect an easy re-election win for Bada$$ Biden.
agreed, Kibbitzer.
Mitch says every time that there is a dem president that Mitch's main job is to make that president fail. It's obscene.
I dearly hope the R party dissolves into a mess of goo and is resurrected as a party that actually wants the country to be a better place all the time.
So GW Bush, Mitt Romney and the former VP Mike Pence can't stand at a podium in front of the GQP base without being heckled and booed from the stage and that doesn't strike you as a party in a real mess and turning on itself?
JustSayinnn wrote:
So GW Bush, Mitt Romney and the former VP Mike Pence can't stand at a podium in front of the GQP base without being heckled and booed from the stage and that doesn't strike you as a party in a real mess and turning on itself?
It does, but the problem is too many people will still just vote for “their team.”
JustSayinnn wrote:
Real LAW 'N ORDER:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/proud-boys-leader-pleads-guilty-burning-black-lives-matter-banner-n1274409
Lock this terrorist the fk up
Fat hurts wrote:
nonequals wrote:
I forgot that she could. If any of them have already clearly denied/contradicted any undeniable facts about the event, sure.
And, if we lived in a reasonable country, that litmus test ought to apply to them having been clearly irrational/dishonest about just about anything else of any substance. But currently, that would probably disqualify WAY too many Rs, so maybe, "politically," she ought not go that route.
It might make sense to veto anyone who is a potential witness.
I’m not sure. Clearly an overwhelming majority of conservatives are more than happy to stay behind a reckless stone cold loser and a party that has fully embraced a path to autocracy. The best bet is to just keep putting their extremism on full display to chip away the party’s support. Watching the likes of Gym Jordan show their lunacy in front of a national audience help turn the notch up on the urgency of Ds coming out to vote.
Trollminator wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
It might make sense to veto anyone who is a potential witness.
I’m not sure. Clearly an overwhelming majority of conservatives are more than happy to stay behind a reckless stone cold loser and a party that has fully embraced a path to autocracy. The best bet is to just keep putting their extremism on full display to chip away the party’s support. Watching the likes of Gym Jordan show their lunacy in front of a national audience help turn the notch up on the urgency of Ds coming out to vote.
Meant to add that it’s critical for Ds to be and remain on the offense on all these issues. So far into Biden’s presidency the party seems a bit relaxed to me. Trump didn’t go away so I don’t understand why they are not hammering him constantly still. Keep it known to the whole country that he’s still the top threat and that the GQP worships him.
Fat hurts wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I bet it is awesome to pay 7x electricity prices, rack up expensive repair charges at twice the rate of an EV, get ripped off at the dealership, pay for features that don't work, and worry about your car catching on fire at 11x the rate of EV's.
BTW, my Full Self Driving package works pretty well right now and it keeps getting better over time without paying anything extra. Name me any gas car that gets better the longer you own it. Mine does.
If you buy a gas car you are an idiot.
And just today Tesla announced another new feature I'll be getting for free. It's called auto-shift. You don't need to put the car in drive or reverse. You just get in the car and it figures out which direction it needs to go. It's yet another thing that no gas car can do.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fat hurts wrote:
Ha mbo wrote:
https://electrek.co/2021/07/14/gm-chevy-bolt-ev-owners-not-charge-overnight-park-inside-garages-firesIt must be such a hassle to not be able to park your car in a garage or near anything. Makes it useless when you can’t take it anywhere. Take it to work? Nope. Take it out to a store? Nope Take kids to school? Nope 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Of course you can’t charge it so you couldn’t take it out of the empty field anyway. 😂😂😂🦤🦤
https://cleantechnica.com/2021/07/14/monopoly-money-tesla-quotes-16000-for-700-repairExtreme overcharging by the manufacturer for all these repairs. This is what happpens when the manufacturer has you by the balls. And having to repair it days into ownership. Ooof. That adds to the already overpriced car. 😂😂😂💲💲💲
https://electrek.co/2021/07/18/tesla-is-charging-owners-1500-for-hardware-they-already-paid-for/Then you’ve got to deal with paying for features more than once. And then either paying an extraordinary amount up front or a car payment-like fee every month. $200/month. And it doesn’t even fully work. 😂😂😂If you don’t think Tesla will make you pay more and increase the monthly payment, you’re an idiot. They’ve got you by the balls again. 😂😂😂😂😂
And of course you have the high cost of charging the vehicle. More than 3x the cost of gas💲💲💲💲💲. And you can barely find a working charger and even if you do you have to wait and wait and wait for it to charge. 💤💤💤💤
By the time Tesla’s done with you, you’ll pay for that car 2 or 3 times. 😂😂😂 They created the perfect model for suckers. 🦤🦤🦤🦤🦤 Kudos to them.
You are lying about the Bolt. I use it normally except that I no longer charge over night. No need for me to do that anyway since I got the Tesla. And I expect to get a brand new battery for my trouble.
I don't have to pay Tesla for features more than once. Nobody does. You are lying about that too.
You say the FSD feature is no good. If that's the case nobody will pay for the subscription. You can't have it both ways.
I paid the $10,000 and I get to use the Full Self Driving as long as I want without ever paying an extra penny. And I get free upgrades as it gets better and better.
You continue to buy gas cars and pay the Saudis to keep it going at 7x the price I pay for electricity.
Tesla is hugely successful because they make the best cars. Yes, they are making lots of money and they will make even more in the future as they put the legacy auto makers out of business.
You can say I’m lying all you want but I backed my assertions up with facts. It’s great for you that you bought overpriced cars that the manufacturer says you can’t charge or park near anything. Hope you’re praying that the “fix” is better than the last one. In the back of your mind you’ll always think - is this thing going to catch fire tonight and burn down the neighbirhood? 🔥🔥🔥 Tesla is great but you’ll end up paying for it 2-3 times the cost of the already overpriced car once you’re done with the costly repairs, half baked services, paying for services multiple times, etc. Kudos to Elon for creating a model for suckers who will end up paying and paying. . 💰💰💰💰 Tesla is hugely successful because they created a model that makes them a lot of dough off fanboys and suckers. 🦤🦤🦤🦤🎣🎣🎣🎣
She’s going have dementia joe plugging cow a$$es as soon as he finishes that ice cream. 😂😂😂😂 The far left has joe by the balls.
Santiago Stephenn wrote:
Santiago Stephenn wrote:
Nobody - not even Dems - wants to be associated with the Democratic party anymore.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/07/19/axios-anyone-else-notice-dems-running-away-from-their-party-n403116/ampLike RATS fleeing a sinking ship.
Or like rats fleeing an EV. 😂😂😂😂😂
kibitzer wrote:
News of the markets' tanking yesterday helped me realize that there are substantial numbers of Americans who--because of the party currently holding the White House and majorities in Congress--simply *don't want* the economy to recover; *don't want* Covid-19 under control in this country; *don't want* America to return to something resembling normality.
Substantial numbers of Americans *already* are living life as normal, their economy *already* recovered (check the GDP and unemployment stats of red states). Seriously LOL at your take.
Ha mbo wrote:
Tesla is hugely successful because they created a model that makes them a lot of dough off fanboys and suckers
Tesla has already made a lot of dough for me.
Investors think Tesla is worth more than Toyota, Volkswagen, and GM combined. Those investors are wrong. In five years, Tesla will be worth five times its value today. And the legacy auto makes will lose half their value.
Gas cars are toast. And the legacy autos are way behind in their quest to make EV's.
When Tesla delivers its $25,000 model, the game is over. I believe that will happen in late 2023.
Fat hurts wrote:
Ha mbo wrote:
Tesla is hugely successful because they created a model that makes them a lot of dough off fanboys and suckers
Tesla has already made a lot of dough for me.
Investors think Tesla is worth more than Toyota, Volkswagen, and GM combined. Those investors are wrong. In five years, Tesla will be worth five times its value today. And the legacy auto makes will lose half their value.
Gas cars are toast. And the legacy autos are way behind in their quest to make EV's.
When Tesla delivers its $25,000 model, the game is over. I believe that will happen in late 2023.
You’re exactly the sucker Elon created this model for. 😂😂😂🦤🎣🦤💰💰💰💰🎣🎣🎣 you’ll pay for that car multiple times. 😂😂😂 and whatever you do don’t get in an accident. The repair costs are outrageous. . 💰💰💰💰
https://provscons.com/teslas-body-damage-repair-cost-and-time-is-insane-it-needs-to-be-fixed-reference/Damage: Sideswiped by a truck.
Repair Cost: $49,011.
Repair Time: 3 months. [All the needed parts were present at the body repair shop.]
Damage: Minor Scratch.
Cost: $7174.
Time: 7 weeks.
Dent Repair Cost: $34,000
Model S issues of one owner. 3 drive units, 2 Battery Packs, 1 MCU, 1 Charge Port Door, 9 door handles, 4 shocks, windshield wiper linkage, tail light condensation.
Lost a lug nut. Took 1 month to replace it.
Bent the wheel, 1 month to replace it from Tesla.
...and much more.
Let the lame excuses, whataboutism, and but, but, buts commence. 😂😂😂😂😂
I guess the good news is that it won’t catch the neighborhood on fire...yet. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
