Election denying Democrats said it for 4 straight years, hell they continue to say it till this day. Let's not pretend it's a one side issue. Hypocrite.
Bullsh!t. Hillary conceded. Democrats didn't storm the capitol to try to stop the legal proceeding of passing the torch to the next President. Democrats didn't have a bunch of candidates running on "election denier" platforms.
Absolutely NO comparison. You can't honestly believe it's the same.
The incoming House Minority Leader is an election denier.
Bullsh!t. Hillary conceded. Democrats didn't storm the capitol to try to stop the legal proceeding of passing the torch to the next President. Democrats didn't have a bunch of candidates running on "election denier" platforms.
Absolutely NO comparison. You can't honestly believe it's the same.
The incoming House Minority Leader is an election denier.
I disagree that he's that. He hasn't continued with that. He was asking fair questions at that time. He brought up that Trump MIGHT be an illegitimate President in 2019 when the Mueller Investigation was going on, and he did CORRECTLY say that 17 agencies found that Russia had meddled in the election with the intention of inserting Trump in as President. THAT is a fact that EVERYONE should have been concerned about.
Even if you want to point to one or two who questioned Trump's legitimacy, it is STILL not the same as what Trump did and continues to do.
1) Trump had LAWYERS going around spreading wild lies without any proof.
2) Trump involved more than 60 courts who ALL said it was all nonsense.
3) Trumpers had scores of candidates who ran on an election denier platform as their main thing.
4) Trump continues to say the election was stolen today with NO PROOF. We KNOW that Russia meddled in the 2016 election...the only thing we don't know is if that meddling made any difference. I'm willing to say it did not. The VAST MAJORITY of Democrats feel the same way.
Believing that the 2020 election was stolen for Joe Biden is nutso.
I have never--not once--watched CNN. Some years ago I was fortunate to get an assessment of that channel from people I trusted: "Orange man bad!" Why would I spend time to hear that? (I also don't vote Democratic, so there's that.)
You know, if people could get away from your kind of binary thinking/pigeonholing, it might actually be possible for folks to have an actual dialogue, rather than just talking past each other.
let's say it comes down to trump v democrat, probably biden.
If we posit a hypothetical that the hunter biden investigation comes up with a Joe crime....I have no doubt that only a few million Dems would refuse to vote for either Spanks or Joe. Despite a crime, almost all Dems would still vote for Joe. Like almost all Rs vote for Spanky despite the crimes and ethical lapses.
It's binary. One or the other. That's a problem with the two party system, esp now that the party organizations have weakened and entrepreneurial candidates like trump have been able to hijack them.
Any crime that Joe Biden may have committed related to Hunter Biden will have NOTHING to do with trying to overthrow our government. If Joe is convicted of a crime related to that and he is the candidate up against Trump, I would have to vote for Biden. Some sort of greed crime is still bad, but it is NOTHING compared to trying to overthrow our government, which Trump did try to do through violence and other means.
IF Biden ALSO tries to overthrow our government (he won't), then I would not vote for either one of them and would HAVE to vote for a third-party candidate or just not vote at all if there were not third-party candidate. I will NEVER vote for Dictatorship in this country.
If Trump DID try to overthrow the government, which is what you insist, that would be the most serious threat to our democracy EVER. Why has the Jan. 6 Congressional committee stopped having hearings. If what Flagpole is saying is true, they should be holding non-stop hearings till the cows come home. I just don't understand why the Committee members have taken a months-long hiatus from holding hearings if the gravity of Jan. 6 was so severe as Flagpole offers up. You can hear crickets in the Jan. 6 Committee hearing room.
I have never--not once--watched CNN. Some years ago I was fortunate to get an assessment of that channel from people I trusted: "Orange man bad!" Why would I spend time to hear that? (I also don't vote Democratic, so there's that.)
You know, if people could get away from your kind of binary thinking/pigeonholing, it might actually be possible for folks to have an actual dialogue, rather than just talking past each other.
hard to believe people are so media bubbled that they think they think the trump investigations were triggered by the steele dossier.
just colossally ignorant. 5 minutes of googling would...oh never mind.
And this clown cancels my vote. Or maybe it's some red hat shouting 'lock her up' or 'jfk junior is alive' who cancels my vote. Argh.
I disagree that he's that. He hasn't continued with that. He was asking fair questions at that time. He brought up that Trump MIGHT be an illegitimate President in 2019 when the Mueller Investigation was going on, and he did CORRECTLY say that 17 agencies found that Russia had meddled in the election with the intention of inserting Trump in as President. THAT is a fact that EVERYONE should have been concerned about.
Even if you want to point to one or two who questioned Trump's legitimacy, it is STILL not the same as what Trump did and continues to do.
1) Trump had LAWYERS going around spreading wild lies without any proof.
2) Trump involved more than 60 courts who ALL said it was all nonsense.
3) Trumpers had scores of candidates who ran on an election denier platform as their main thing.
4) Trump continues to say the election was stolen today with NO PROOF. We KNOW that Russia meddled in the 2016 election...the only thing we don't know is if that meddling made any difference. I'm willing to say it did not. The VAST MAJORITY of Democrats feel the same way.
Believing that the 2020 election was stolen for Joe Biden is nutso.
All that is true, but since you are a proven election-denier yourself, your recitation is devoid of value. Null set. Zero. Blanked. Vacuum. Vacant. You can't divide by zero.
I have never--not once--watched CNN. Some years ago I was fortunate to get an assessment of that channel from people I trusted: "Orange man bad!" Why would I spend time to hear that? (I also don't vote Democratic, so there's that.)
You know, if people could get away from your kind of binary thinking/pigeonholing, it might actually be possible for folks to have an actual dialogue, rather than just talking past each other.
hard to believe people are so media bubbled that they think they think the trump investigations were triggered by the steele dossier.
just colossally ignorant. 5 minutes of googling would...oh never mind.
And this clown cancels my vote. Or maybe it's some red hat shouting 'lock her up' or 'jfk junior is alive' who cancels my vote. Argh.
Republican voter suppression loses this time. But I’m sure they’ll find another way to put their finger on the scale. Conservatives have been trying to get black citizens not to vote for 150+ years. They won’t stop any time soon.
BREAKING: Georgia Supreme Court unanimously denies appeal from Georgia Republican Party. Saturday voting is upheld.
hard to believe people are so media bubbled that they think they think the trump investigations were triggered by the steele dossier.
just colossally ignorant. 5 minutes of googling would...oh never mind.
And this clown cancels my vote. Or maybe it's some red hat shouting 'lock her up' or 'jfk junior is alive' who cancels my vote. Argh.
Why do you hate democracy?
Huh? Seems clear that democracy suffers when ignorant voters vote. I love democracy but I loathe ignorance and stupidity. Trumpism boasts about its ignorance. Trump was right to say he loves the badly educated voters. Right wing america depends on keeping its people ignorant.
fighting ignorance is deeply, deeply pro-democracy. Right wing lying is deeply, deeply anti-democracy.
Republican voter suppression loses this time. But I’m sure they’ll find another way to put their finger on the scale. Conservatives have been trying to get black citizens not to vote for 150+ years. They won’t stop any time soon.
BREAKING: Georgia Supreme Court unanimously denies appeal from Georgia Republican Party. Saturday voting is upheld.
What have conservatives done to prevent black citizens from voting? That is a new one for me.
Republican voter suppression loses this time. But I’m sure they’ll find another way to put their finger on the scale. Conservatives have been trying to get black citizens not to vote for 150+ years. They won’t stop any time soon.
BREAKING: Georgia Supreme Court unanimously denies appeal from Georgia Republican Party. Saturday voting is upheld.
There's no "voter suppression" in Georgia. It's easier to vote there than in your state. Yet you're trained to hate Georgia.
Republican voter suppression loses this time. But I’m sure they’ll find another way to put their finger on the scale. Conservatives have been trying to get black citizens not to vote for 150+ years. They won’t stop any time soon.
BREAKING: Georgia Supreme Court unanimously denies appeal from Georgia Republican Party. Saturday voting is upheld.
There's no "voter suppression" in Georgia. It's easier to vote there than in your state. Yet you're trained to hate Georgia.
Is your argument that Georgia conservatives are not trying to have fewer black people vote? Because that’s a big claim.
Believing that the 2020 election was stolen for Joe Biden is nutso.
It is impossible to believe that a senile old man who stayed in his basement for the entire campaign, who enerjized no one, could not make one speech without gafes, who's son is a corrupt drug-addled sex addict, almost punched out a patriotic worker during the primaries and who's running mate bailed out rioters and looters could actually beat a confident and stable billionaire who energized the country wherever he went, who walked the talk on the wall, and owned the coastal liberal elites with his tax bill, and brought America's might into the fight against the Chinese virus. No way to do that without cheating on a grand scale.
Believing that the 2020 election was stolen for Joe Biden is nutso.
It is impossible to believe that a senile old man who stayed in his basement for the entire campaign, who enerjized no one, could not make one speech without gafes, who's son is a corrupt drug-addled sex addict, almost punched out a patriotic worker during the primaries and who's running mate bailed out rioters and looters could actually beat a confident and stable billionaire who energized the country wherever he went, who walked the talk on the wall, and owned the coastal liberal elites with his tax bill, and brought America's might into the fight against the Chinese virus. No way to do that without cheating on a grand scale.
That is because you underestimate how much the country despises your guy. It should be getting clearer for you now that a good chunk if the GOP is calling Trump for what he is. But we understand that there will always be hold outs just like you.
Any crime that Joe Biden may have committed related to Hunter Biden will have NOTHING to do with trying to overthrow our government. If Joe is convicted of a crime related to that and he is the candidate up against Trump, I would have to vote for Biden. Some sort of greed crime is still bad, but it is NOTHING compared to trying to overthrow our government, which Trump did try to do through violence and other means.
IF Biden ALSO tries to overthrow our government (he won't), then I would not vote for either one of them and would HAVE to vote for a third-party candidate or just not vote at all if there were not third-party candidate. I will NEVER vote for Dictatorship in this country.
If Trump DID try to overthrow the government, which is what you insist, that would be the most serious threat to our democracy EVER. Why has the Jan. 6 Congressional committee stopped having hearings. If what Flagpole is saying is true, they should be holding non-stop hearings till the cows come home. I just don't understand why the Committee members have taken a months-long hiatus from holding hearings if the gravity of Jan. 6 was so severe as Flagpole offers up. You can hear crickets in the Jan. 6 Committee hearing room.