SYDNEY THORVALDSON: 9:47.95 2 mile to beat Brynn Brown!

If you don't recognize Milesplit as a legit organization then you can't recognize T&F News which means that you don't recognize most of the records that you are referring to. I doubt you even realize that. NFHS maintains national track records for High School. They have to be set in high school only events. And what organization is responsible for national HS championships? Is it NFHS? They sponsored the XC meet at Terre Haute. They have held national track meets with sponsors. Was the Terre Haute the national XC meet then? Is it New Balance? They are a shoe company. Is it Foot Locker? They are a shoe store. Is it Brooks? They are a shoe company. USATF holds the national championship for seniors and juniors but not for high school. So some of you may want to be careful about claiming who holds national records and who has been a national champ because it makes the point that Hutchins is the national record holder for XC. This is not life and death. It is merely high school sports. Most of you are too wrapped up in the minutia to enjoy the sports. A record merely means something happened and was recorded as such. Your high school history book is a record of thi n gs that happened a long time ago.

Astro posts here wrote:Most of you are too wrapped up in the minutia to enjoy the sports.

This cant be emphasized enough. I actually feel sorry for so many of the posters here who, for their own personal reasons, would rather use sports as an opportunity to argue and denigrate then appreciate and celebrate.

Indoor? wrote:

Girls to women wrote:

That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.

What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.

Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.

Weird that a middle aged men are arguing about high school girls....

Indoor? wrote:

Girls to women wrote:

That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.

What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.

Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.

she ran 15:34. she’s 100% sub 9:40 shape. did you even see her XC season this past fall?

LappedMiler wrote:

[quote]Indoor? wrote:

Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.

Please, please do a little research before you post ignorance. As stated before -Hutchins ran 9:49.68 for 3200m at Music City Distance Carnival this summer. This converts to 9:53.26 for 2 miles (per Track and Field News).

This particular course was certified. Just because every XC course isn't certified doesn't mean records can't be acknowledged for the ones that are.

From MileSplit:

"It also should be noted that course directors said afterward, quite clearly, that John Hunt Park had been measured scientifically down to the last meter, with a fully-credentialed 3.1 course."

need a hobby? wrote:

Indoor? wrote:

What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.

Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.

Weird that a middle aged men are arguing about high school girls....

They're athletes. Stop sexualizing them and start considering them as seriously as you do other athletes.

Wow. 9:38 for a HS girl. That’s impressive. How fast did this Cain girl get? What is her married name? Did she ever win the Olympics?

The Cain girl ran 1:59 and 4:04 times good enough for an Olympic medal so I think she did alright. Thanks for playing.

dxttfdtdr wrote:

Wow. 9:38 for a HS girl. That’s impressive. How fast did this Cain girl get? What is her married name? Did she ever win the Olympics?

Based on my experience as a high school and collegiate 800meter runner I have to say I agree with you. The body has a limited number of high quality performances in it every season. That's why those who are able to consistently put out high quality performances year after year are considered the all time greats. Running too hard in practice and running too many races can be disastrous for a runner. You have to find the right balance and it can vary by individual.

We tend to take this for granted because it was the way it was always done but the typical elite high school runner's schedule was a complete grind, and that is in addition to the demands of being in high school, getting up early to go to school each day, class work, etc. A coincidence of this pandemic is that these athletes are much less worn out and much better rested than would be the case normally. So we are likely looking out an outlier season performance wise that will almost impossible to duplicate once things return to "normal" and these athletes revert back to being exhausted high school kids.

Hutchins is coached by one of the best coaches in the country. Expect her to break every distance record.

Thorvaldsen ran a very poorly paced mile, opening in a zesty 65. It immediately put paid to sub-4:40, which she's easily capable of right now. Going out at 4:20 pace. Sheesh.