Real deal is she! Check out this mile/2 mile double from her this weekend.
*4:43.90. Brooke Rauber second in 4:49.06
*9:47.95 with Brynn Brown 3+ seconds back (9:51.00)
Nice double also by sophomore Sophia Gorriaran - #8 all-time indoor 800m 2:03.96 (2:02.90 PR) in taking second and a super 500m win in 1:12.95
That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.
Whoa! Those are insane times, 2nd place too!
Those 2 miles are second and third all-time in or out
9:38:68 Cain
9:47.95 Thorvaldson
9:51.00 Brown
9:51:05 Tuohy
9:51:35 Oakley (1st outdoor)
Gorriaran actually tripled. Two hours before that 500 she anchored a world U20 record 4x8.
It is great year for the HS girls. Three of the best distance runners ever in Hutchins, Thorvaldson, and Brown and three of the best 800 runners ever in Whittaker, Gorriaran, and Willis.
Girls to women wrote:
That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.
What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.
Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.
She ran 15:34 on the track.... how can you say she won’t break 9:55
You are asking the question or just being a wiseguy? Hutchins broke the XC record and the 5k track record. She ran 15:34. Guys who run 15:34 also run 9:30. That is pretty average for a 15:34 runner. She probably split 9:55 in her 5k.
Indoor? wrote:
Girls to women wrote:
That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.
What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.
Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.
I don't think Thorvaldson and Hutchins competed this past year. That was Brown that Thorvaldson beat in TX.
Girls to women wrote:
That is a great double. Have to think that she and Hutchins are capable of 9:30 for 3200.
Possibly, but I don't think so, by June. 9:30 for 2 miles is 4:45 per mile. Thorvaldson just ran 4:43 and was working at it.
Real Human wrote:
You are asking the question or just being a wiseguy? Hutchins broke the XC record and the 5k track record. She ran 15:34. Guys who run 15:34 also run 9:30. That is pretty average for a 15:34 runner. She probably split 9:55 in her 5k.
Those guys all have much better foot speed than either Thorvaldson or Hutchins (or Tuohy).
That is true but Hutchins will run much faster than 15:34 when she gets into a competitive pro race this year.
Yeah. But I do think records will fall. A consequence of the lockdowns is that the high school athletes are better rest. I underestimated this effect but take away the usual high school grind and the typical state of exhaustion and it is probably conducive to better performances. Not a normal state of affairs.
Foot speed? FYI: Hutchins ran 9:49.83 3200m at Music City Distance Carnival in Memphis this summer.
FastTuohy wrote:
Indoor? wrote:
What makes anyone think Hutchins is close to Thorvaldson? We saw this in XC and Sydney housed her.
Hutchins doesn't break 9:55 in a real race.
I don't think Thorvaldson and Hutchins competed this past year. That was Brown that Thorvaldson beat in TX.
You are correct! My mistake, I thought for sure there was one where the big 3 all raced.
I still feel Hutchins is way overblown, but maybe I'm wrong. To be fair, my usual opinion is that none of these will do much in college.
The foot speed when comparing times to boys is a pretty great example.
Yes 15:30s boys run those times but they might have 52/1:58 speed while Hutchins might be 60/2:20
Runjumpthrow,etc wrote:
Foot speed? FYI: Hutchins ran 9:49.83 3200m at Music City Distance Carnival in Memphis this summer.
Foot speed, meaning can she break 60 for 400 m? Thorvaldson looked like she was really working in her first 400 at 65 seconds roughly.. I think she split 65/71/74/73 or something close to that. I just don't think these girls have the speed to run the very fast mile one might otherwise expect. They can run a long ways at a steady 73-75 per quarter, to their credit.
2:20? Hutchins can run faster than that for a 1600. Hutchins has run 2:13 in 2019. She is a different runner today. I would give her at least a 2:09.
2:13 on 61 is pretty good. I would guess she might be slower at 800 now, bu maybe we'll see.
WYbeast wrote:
Real deal is she!
*4:43.90. Brooke Rauber second in 4:49.06
*9:47.95 with Brynn Brown 3+ seconds
back in 9:51.00
Nice double also by sophomore Sophia Gorriaran - #8 all-time indoor 800m 2:03.96 (2:02.90 PR) in taking second and a super 500m win in 1:12.95
Are these times with carbon-plated spikes?
How about Whittaker's 800m?
I hope not in all cases.
Jenny Hutchins went out in 9:56 for 3200m, if memory serves, as I watched the live stream.
Here is the link to the article by Dyestat:
https://www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=44531&do=news&news_id=611519
This highlights both that and the U20 WORLD RECORD breaking 4x800 at the Virginia Showcase.
Woah... what a race by both of them. Thorvaldson's time of 9:47.95 puts her #2 all time by a HS prep behind Mary Cain's 9:38.68 and in front of Katelyn Tuohy's 9:51.05. Brynn Brown also ran 9:51.00 putting her at #3 and Tuohy at #4.
Discuss below!! Do you think Thorvaldson is one of the best prep runners ever?