Parler, free speech website, taken down from the web

george c wrote:

There is far too much there for me to get into, but there is nothing that the GOP wants to promote as a message that is being censored.

That is a complete lie. Twitter and Facebook actively prevented users from sharing stories on Joe Biden's corrupt ties to communist China in the weeks before the election.

All liberal news media censored Tara Reade's claim that Joe Biden raped her while she was part of his staff. Hers was a far more credible claim than that against Justice Brett Kavanaugh, which was front page news for a month.

The big tech companies are currently censoring stories of election fraud.

The list goes on and on. We are now living in a one party system where the news media is a branch of the government. They now have The One Ring. What could possibly go wrong?

I would look at media use statistics and such and really think about whether anything you claimed was actually censored. Just because network TV didn't run with it doesn't mean it was censored... Most people do not get their news from network TV and newspapers. Let's be realistic when discussing modern media.

Bound4Glory wrote:

That is a complete lie. Twitter and Facebook actively prevented users from sharing stories on Joe Biden's corrupt ties to communist China in the weeks before the election.

All liberal news media censored Tara Reade's claim that Joe Biden raped her while she was part of his staff. Hers was a far more credible claim than that against Justice Brett Kavanaugh, which was front page news for a month.

The big tech companies are currently censoring stories of election fraud.

The list goes on and on. We are now living in a one party system where the news media is a branch of the government. They now have The One Ring. What could possibly go wrong?

THIS is the GOP platform? It is no wonder they are suppressing votes at every turn. If this is their message, who in their right mind would support it? Health care? Social security? A working wage? Who needs them......if we can just get the Tara Read story out. How would any of those things make anyone's life better?

Start your own social network that 1) can't be hacked and 2) is self hosted.

It's not hard. You just have to find a few IT guys willing to help host death threats and racism.

There's clearly a demand!!

Bound4Glory wrote:

Duh! By Pelosi, among others. She tweeted this in early 2017: "Our election was hijacked. There is no question. Congress has a duty to #ProtectOurDemocracy & #FollowTheFacts."

Did you read that? Pelosi said in 2017: Our election was hijacked!

That's the hypocrisy part. The part where Pelosi said: Our election was hijacked.

Hypocrisy.

I will just copy and paste. Apparently you did not read this. I know facts sting but if you back the wrong horse there is no dishonor in acknowleding it and stepping away gracefully. Continuing in an angry fashion spewing trump rhetoric that is not based on anything is no way to go through college Mr. Blutarski.

In 2016 trump held a small lead with only strong democratic counties remaining to report from Virginia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. It was projected to be a slight win for Clinton. Suddenly the 65% plus districts for Dems went 55% for trump. After the election, independent Jill Stein requested an investigation. It was denied and R leaders in MI, WI, & PA immediately had all voting machine records and paper trails destroyed. This was in early December. However, Clinton conceded immediately, the right thing to do, and the Dems protest was that we have to secure things for 2020. They wrote and passed three voter security bills that went to the senate, but the GOP and McConnell blocked all three. Now, in 2021 the R's are calling fraud. There are a lot of people that believe the R's believe that if too many people of color vote it is fraud. The 2020 vote is not even close suspicion that 2016 held. R run states have done every check and recheck possible. In 2016 the R states destroyed all evidence and said, "nothing to see here."

Would you believe there might be something being hijacked?

And all they did was get GOP congress people to join them in 3 bipartisan bills to address election fraud and tampering. They were passed but the GOP senate refused to even vote on a voter security bill. Now, why do you think they did this?

Weird how they'll say it's a free speech website, but I make a couple posts saying Biden is better than Trump and they ban me immediately.

And anyone who says this is 1984 has never read 1984, or completely missed the point. It's a book about how the government controls people, using endless wars, mass surveillance history revisionism, and propaganda.

Not to mention that Trump has done all of these, (see: getting people to storm the capitol by making them think the election wasn't fair) but Parlor getting banned had nothing to do with the government controlling people.

Weird how conservatives are always pro free speech and anti government intervention, but the moment a private company begins to delete their comments or ban some users, conservatives will be up in arms about it.

Tomas A Anderson wrote:

Pizza Joe wrote:

I predict that they will be up and running by the end of the week. I also predict that Amazon will settle within 30 days.

LOL. Feel free to bump this thread when that happens.

They could be up and running on another hosting platform by the end of the week, but your second prediction isn't realistic on any level.

Government is just a tool for both sides to "own" the other. We've kinda devolved.

Rocket Mann wrote:

Weird how they'll say it's a free speech website, but I make a couple posts saying Biden is better than Trump and they ban me immediately.

And anyone who says this is 1984 has never read 1984, or completely missed the point. It's a book about how the government controls people, using endless wars, mass surveillance history revisionism, and propaganda.

Not to mention that Trump has done all of these, (see: getting people to storm the capitol by making them think the election wasn't fair) but Parlor getting banned had nothing to do with the government controlling people.

Weird how conservatives are always pro free speech and anti government intervention, but the moment a private company begins to delete their comments or ban some users, conservatives will be up in arms about it.

the dude guy7 wrote:

The left wants to conquer America and revive the feudal system, where we all live short, hard lives in chains and shackles. To this end, they must be like the medieval Catholic Church, and have total ideological control over society. This necessarily means they must silence the truth by rabidly censoring pro-liberty content, such as that which was found on Parler. The way they think is “why should we let people who disagree with us speak? If you disagree with us, you’re a racist, conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer, flat earther, science denier, etc.” Support the left immediately if you want to live under economic misery and for it to be illegal to criticize the leftists in power.

Sir, you are an extremists...you are so far to the right that you are a dangerous individual.

Btw, Parler repeated violated the terms of its host; what happened to Parler is no difference than what this message board will do if someone repeatedly engage in hate speech, spread dangerous misinformation and plan an insurrection. And, it's practically a joke to say "silence the truth by rabidly censoring pro-liberty content". Over the last couple of months Parler had become a den for white wing extremists. Even veteran Parler users where becoming uncomfortable the volume of obviously false information and hate speech on the site.

george c wrote:

I will just copy and paste. Apparently you did not read this. I know facts sting but if you back the wrong horse there is no dishonor in acknowleding it and stepping away gracefully.

Who cares about the issues you posted? I don't want to argue why and how Hillary lost four years ago. The point is this. The Democrats repeatedly questioned the 2016 Election for years and that was acceptable to them back then. But now that Trump is questioning the Election, he's subverting democracy. It's bullcrap.

Armstronglivs wrote:

trash bin 2 wrote:

Sounds about right. Mostly bums

I understand traffic to LetsRun shows a good income and education level demographic. The 90k/year part of LetsRun just visits the front page and doesn’t post as much in the forums.

The uneducated revolutionaries/borderline proud boys post in the LetsRun world famous message boards section. World famous for KKK like bs. It’s why stupid and ridiculous stuff about Covid being a hoax and not that big of a deal gets left up

We are too selective here - it isn't just Letsrun posters who are on Parler. It's also likely to be the owners and mods. The last year has shown that Letsrun is a Trump supporting site. And still is. Any threads criticizing or condemning him will be deleted. His conspiracy theories are given free rein. Letsrun or Parler - what's the diff?

I disagree!

I assume the Johnson brothers and the majority of the posters are conservatives, but I don't see rampant extreme right wing activation on this site. These days, the LRC is one of the few places you get to both sides and at times legitimate debate. You could clearly see the LRC's conservative and at times racist slant several years ago, but most of radical and hateful stuff has been cleaned up.

Why would the Democrats care about investigations into voter fraud if there wasn't any fraud to begin with? You would expect their attitude to be this: "Let the investigations continue. So what? They'll turn up nothing". But, that's not happening.

There's only one possible reason why the Democrats are so worried about Trump questioning the Election results (when they all did the same exact thing for years): they know there really was massive widespread vote fraud and they're worried if investigators keep digging, they're eventually going to find it. That's what's really happening.

Bound4Glory wrote:

george c wrote:

I will just copy and paste. Apparently you did not read this. I know facts sting but if you back the wrong horse there is no dishonor in acknowleding it and stepping away gracefully.

Who cares about the issues you posted? I don't want to argue why and how Hillary lost four years ago. The point is this. The Democrats repeatedly questioned the 2016 Election for years and that was acceptable to them back then. But now that Trump is questioning the Election, he's subverting democracy. It's bullcrap.

You are hopeless. That trump flag flying from your Lexus is NOT coming down.

You certainly DID want to argue how/why Hillary lost. YOU brought it up instead of facing the question. Much like with this post.

What is the republican platform and message that is being censored?

Bound4Glory wrote:

Why would the Democrats care about investigations into voter fraud if there wasn't any fraud to begin with? You would expect their attitude to be this: "Let the investigations continue. So what? They'll turn up nothing". But, that's not happening.

There's only one possible reason why the Democrats are so worried about Trump questioning the Election results (when they all did the same exact thing for years): they know there really was massive widespread vote fraud and they're worried if investigators keep digging, they're eventually going to find it. That's what's really happening.

I think we are living in different realities. The GOP riots last week, where five people died - including a cop beaten to death with a fire extinguisher, wasn’t chanting to investigate the election.

Waste of time and money! Like... you know... the things Rs used to care about.

Bound4Glory wrote:

Why would the Democrats care about investigations into voter fraud if there wasn't any fraud to begin with? You would expect their attitude to be this: "Let the investigations continue. So what? They'll turn up nothing". But, that's not happening.

There's only one possible reason why the Democrats are so worried about Trump questioning the Election results (when they all did the same exact thing for years): they know there really was massive widespread vote fraud and they're worried if investigators keep digging, they're eventually going to find it. That's what's really happening.

Investigations continued until certification took place, turning up nothing and changing no outcomes, yet Trump and Republicans still claimed the election was stolen on the basis of no evidence whatsoever and urged their followers to take over the Congress violently.

In 2016, Republicans shut down investigations and recounts wherever possible and that was an election in which the Russians had infiltrated all fifty state election systems.

Bound4Glory wrote:

I also know that liberals are screaming that Trump questioned the election outcome even though (they claim) no evidence of fraud occurred. And they blame the Capital "riot" on him.

What happened all summer? Every Democrat leader was screaming about racist police when there was absolutely no evidence that the accidental death of George Floyd had anything to do with racism. So by extension, why aren't they responsible for the multiple deadly and highly violent riots that followed all summer long?

This is what always happens in a One Party System where the news media is a branch of the ruling party. The democracy is dead. You are all doomed.

I could write a long response, but I will keep it to just one item. Trump said before the election he would claim voter fraud if he lost. He knew extraordinary efforts where being made to secure this election, which is why no federal money or efforts were given to the states. Some states spent over twice their previous election budget to make sure they did not end up on the nightly news. The term counties and states used for the extra efforts was called Trumpify the election. If there was true concern about voter fraud, the federal government would have done something to help prevent it. It is sad that so many average Joes have been duped; the truth is, no one in power actually believes the election was stolen. Only the proletariat, peons and nescient actually believe there was voter fraud. Stop-the-steal is a made up thing, just like unicorns and big foot for example. Words matter! One of the reasons Trump is being impeached is he knowingly used false and incendiary language, knowing his supporters would interpret it as fact and act on it.

Btw, I am a long time election volunteer in a conservative state that went for Trump and I will tell you that this is possibly the best election America has ever conducted.

I agree we probably have different life experiences and perspective that lead to these differences of opinion.

Second amendment is a critical freedom in my opinion. The Clinton ban on semi-automatic weapons was real and unsuccessful in terms of reducing gun deaths. Most gun deaths like 95+% are by hand guns. Most are in inner city dem run areas like Chicago. It seems like a lot of people are scared of black rifles due to lack of familiarity. More like the boogie man than fear grounded in reality. As for mass killings if that is your worry Islamic extremists have been much more effective with vehicles and bombs than guns. I think the new vein of 2nd amendment limitations will come through taxation and limiting ammo. There are plenty of scenarios that semi-automatic rifles with high capacity mags would be critical for self defense. One great recent example was Kenosha Wisconsin.

Obviously the GOP can still get their message out they are more banning individuals not the entire party. Why do you think censorship is a good thing? If they had banned Harris or Waters or Pelosi for some of their rhetoric which has been inflammatory would you feel the same?

Would you prefer to have Trump or Biden's kids? Hunter is a pretty low bar to clear...

[quote]Dril wrote:

"In a report led by Democrats, lawmakers said Apple, Amazon, Google and Facebook needed to be checked and recommended they be restructured and that antitrust laws be reformed."

They ain't gonna do a damn thing