Why Would Saucony Drop Molly Seidel?

takethel wrote:

People who scour over Strava comments have a social disorder.

No need to scour, it was mentioned earlier in thread and took less than 1 min to find/confirm. What makes that a social disorder?

I heard she was offered $200,000 per year for 4 years by Saucony but turned that down. That's not being dropped by Saucony. That's wanting more money from someone else.

Shoe reps, if you want $200,000 worth of publicity, please email me I'l be happy to make you the official shoe of LetsRun.com and ban all other shoe ads from the site.

robert@letsrun.com

What's a standard cut for an agent on a shoe deal--10, 15 or 20% ? Also, is that the approximate percentage that a coach gets paid (assuming the coach doesn't get paid by the shoe company)? Does a shoe deal also cover the costs of medical insurance, massage, and related costs?

Assuming that a pro track & field athlete is an independent contractor and pays coach/agent/physio/insurance fees out of pocket, plus taking into account taxes & living expenses, $200k/year doesn't sound like much, but I could be wrong.

That is way more than I assumed.

Officialdb wrote:

It's pathetic they keep cheater Parker Stinson while dropping true and seidel

Is there confirmation PS hasn't been dropped?

Also, as pointed out, they didn't drop Seidel. They just could no longer afford her along with Huddle and whomever else. Honestly, Saucony has never really grabbed for marquee names and got Huddle before she had won so many US titles and worked to maintain that relationship. I mean, they didn't have to beat out many big offers signing PS out of college with zero national crowns and Thweatt before she had ever run a marathon and Droddy coming off a DFL at the OT.

liberty mutual wrote:

What's a standard cut for an agent on a shoe deal--10, 15 or 20% ? Also, is that the approximate percentage that a coach gets paid (assuming the coach doesn't get paid by the shoe company)? Does a shoe deal also cover the costs of medical insurance, massage, and related costs?

Assuming that a pro track & field athlete is an independent contractor and pays coach/agent/physio/insurance fees out of pocket, plus taking into account taxes & living expenses, $200k/year doesn't sound like much, but I could be wrong.

Shoe deals definitely can give you some/many of those things, but not all do.

$200K for Seidel is a totally fair contract and honestly more than I'd expect. Bear in mind a shoe endorsement is not the only one an athlete can get. Molly has 3 other brands listed on her IG right now. There's also prize money and appearance fees.

Officialdb wrote:

It's pathetic they keep cheater Parker Stinson while dropping true and seidel

Hint: Parker isn’t getting 200k+ per year.

I recently purchased some Saucony running clothes and was surprised at how much I liked them, but they charge way too much. Same with the shoes. I am just as happy getting older models from an outlet of other brands.

I like Molly's story but what happens when there are no Olympics? I guess that's why she is getting the money when she can.

There are no "higher ups" at Saucony. They are currently hiring for a CMO. It's public knoweldge.

Cpt. Slow wrote:

BraveyNation brought to you by Champion wrote:

Apparently the higher ups at Saucony weren't thrilled when they heard about what's been going on between Molly, her coach, and her sister.

That he’s been coaching her sister alongside Molly?

Right. Because one leadership position is open it means there’s no one else in a decision making role for a 200+ million dollar brand.

rojo wrote:

I heard she was offered $200,000 per year for 4 years by Saucony but turned that down. That's not being dropped by Saucony. That's wanting more money from someone else.

Shoe reps, if you want $200,000 worth of publicity, please email me I'l be happy to make you the official shoe of LetsRun.com and ban all other shoe ads from the site.

robert@letsrun.com

She has a long history of being injured.

Officialdb wrote:

It's pathetic they keep cheater Parker Stinson while dropping true and seidel

Covid is hurting the pro running industry. No races = no advertising

NERunner53 wrote:

I think Puma probably just offered her more money.

$60k per year

I, for one, am happy to get my Endorphin Speeds for a mere $159 instead of paying extra so the company can afford to pay some pro that is going to get no TV coverage while finishing 14th place at the Olympics.

Ite ad Joseph wrote:

Officialdb wrote:

It's pathetic they keep cheater Parker Stinson while dropping true and seidel

Covid is hurting the pro running industry. No races = no advertising

That’s funny.

juanito wrote:

I, for one, am happy to get my Endorphin Speeds for a mere $159 instead of paying extra so the company can afford to pay some pro that is going to get no TV coverage while finishing 14th place at the Olympics.

Do you think the Endorphin Speeds would exist if they didn’t try to compete in elite sponsorship?

Molly who?

Every see how many followers she lost after running with rioters as. postiong it on IG?

dullard wrote:

Molly who?

I guess the Two Molly's Marketing Campaign did not make a lot of money for Saucony.