WTF Stewy McSewyn runs 3:50.61 mile in of all places Penguin Tasmania!

he wishes ... wrote:

Standard Setter wrote:

I just can't believe he didn't capitalize on the 5000m WR and throw down a 12:40-something in that attempt.. missed his chance with his 3:50/7:28 fitness.

Did you read my post? Men that large do not race 12:40.xx 5000 metres.

He can run a 12:40 but not in the conditions that were in Monaco that day. Cheptegei is 115 & McSweyn is 155. There is no way in hell a 155 pound guy is going to run a 12:40 when the dew point is 70f.

from looking at that list,it seems tasmanians are pretty good runners.

High 12:40s or low 12:50s seem reasonable in good conditions for a 3:30/7:28 guy. What Cheptegei can run for 5000m in good conditions is insanely fast. He has a shot at breaking 12:30 after running 12:35 in that weather.

Heinenkleisner wrote:

Wow, I missed the 7:28 3K from September. The man is hot

The man is knock knock knocking on Mottram's door.

Mottram:

1500 m: 3:33.97 (Zurich 2006)

Mile: 3:48.98 OR (Oslo 2005)

2000 m: 4:50.76 OR (Melbourne 2006)

3000 m 7:32.19 OR (Athens 2006)

2-mile: 8:03.50 OR (Eugene 2007)

5000 m: 12:55.76 OR (London 2004)

10,000 m: 27:34.48 (Palo Alto 2008)

Indoor :

Mile: 3:54.81i (New York 2007)

3000 m: 7:34.50i OR (Boston 2008)

Stew:

1500 m: 3:30.51 NR (Doha 2020)

Mile: 3:50.61 (Taz, 2020)

3000 m: 7:28.02 AR (Rome 2020)

2-mile: 8:16.28 (Palo Alto 2019)

5000 m: 13:05.23 (Brussels 2018)

10,000 m: 27:23.80 AR (Melbourne 2019)

3000 m steeple: 8:34.25 (Gothenburg 2017)

I've actually been to Penguin, Tasmania - there is literally nothing there. The US equivalent to this performance would be like running a 3:50 mile in Minot, ND in April. Amazing performance.

Why Too Kaye wrote:

I've actually been to Penguin, Tasmania - there is literally nothing there. The US equivalent to this performance would be like running a 3:50 mile in Minot, ND in April. Amazing performance.

I stand corrected. Minot, ND is about 15 times larger than Penguin. Launceston, a city of 100,000 plus, is about 90 minute drive south of Penguin.

Why Too Kaye wrote:

I've actually been to Penguin, Tasmania - there is literally nothing there. The US equivalent to this performance would be like running a 3:50 mile in Minot, ND in April. Amazing performance.

Why is it amazing? Is it equivalent to a 3:33 1500m? This is an excellent performance but for a 3:30 runner to run 3:50 it is excellent but certainly not amazing. It is what one might expect from a 3:30 guy who is running without any real competition.

Jokerrr wrote:

Why Too Kaye wrote:

I've actually been to Penguin, Tasmania - there is literally nothing there. The US equivalent to this performance would be like running a 3:50 mile in Minot, ND in April. Amazing performance.

Why is it amazing? Is it equivalent to a 3:33 1500m? This is an excellent performance but for a 3:30 runner to run 3:50 it is excellent but certainly not amazing. It is what one might expect from a 3:30 guy who is running without any real competition.

Tough crowd, here. You must be one of those average Lets Runners with 750k salary, 14 flat 5000m time, and super model girlfriend ...

The dude ran a solo 3:50 mile at a podunk all comers meet in an isolated town of 3000 on an isolated island off of another isolated island continent. Oh, and it was windy, too. Oh, and he won the race by 19 seconds. For chuck steaks, give the boy his props.

LangleyHighxc wrote:

He did this on pure hate due to losing his 10,000m Australian record to Tiernan.

haha maybe, who knows.

Stewy running 3.50 is expected but the manner in which he did it probably isn't. Cheptegei and Cheruiyot have changed the way finals are run by making them a TT so this is encouraging for Stewy. Back in Doha he had a poor run in the final but the talent was always there, now he should be confident he can mix it with the east Africans in a final

How much time can he take off Mottrams 5k record? I'd love to see Mottram vs Stewy vs Rupp vs Jacob all in there peak

Why Too Kaye wrote:

Jokerrr wrote:

Why is it amazing? Is it equivalent to a 3:33 1500m? This is an excellent performance but for a 3:30 runner to run 3:50 it is excellent but certainly not amazing. It is what one might expect from a 3:30 guy who is running without any real competition.

Tough crowd, here. You must be one of those average Lets Runners with 750k salary, 14 flat 5000m time, and super model girlfriend ...

The dude ran a solo 3:50 mile at a podunk all comers meet in an isolated town of 3000 on an isolated island off of another isolated island continent. Oh, and it was windy, too. Oh, and he won the race by 19 seconds. For chuck steaks, give the boy his props.

I am not sure why it matters how many people live in the town. Someone paced him pretty well through 800m and as I stated it was an excellent performance. I do not know much about how windy it was. I do not believe he could have run 3;50 if it was extremely windy. Anyway he has run 7:28 which is tremendous.

free shipping with purchase wrote:

This is a question for some fat, 63 yr old Track and Field News editor with mustard stains on his 1997 USATF polo shirt, ....

Bravo on this.

KangarooCowboy wrote:

Back in Doha he had a poor run in the final but the talent was always there, now he should be confident he can mix it with the east Africans in a final

There is no connection between a strong solo run in December at an off distance and a ripping 5000m final at a global championship.

Walter, I just don't see what this has to do with Vietnam.

... well, there's no literal connection.

he wishes ... wrote:

S. McSweyn wishes there were no 5000 metes at Olympics and World Championships. He lacks the foot speed to medal at 1500m. He is too big and is probably starving himself to attempt to compete at 5000m. McSweyn wishes 3000m were an Olympic and W.C. event.

who hurt you?

wriswerrick wrote:

he wishes ... wrote:

S. McSweyn wishes there were no 5000 metes at Olympics and World Championships. He lacks the foot speed to medal at 1500m. He is too big and is probably starving himself to attempt to compete at 5000m. McSweyn wishes 3000m were an Olympic and W.C. event.

who hurt you?

Nobody "hurt" him. I do not agree with his take but your response is just plain stupid.

free shipping with purchase wrote:

Worth noting that it was not totally still. Wind was at least 5-10mph, blowing trees and lanyards around.

This is a question for some fat, 63 yr old Track and Field News editor with mustard stains on his 1997 USATF polo shirt, but I wonder what the slowest last place time is in a race that was won under 4:00? Under 3:55? Under 3:50 (as this one nearly was)? Last in this one was some JV dude running 5 minutes.

+1

Has anyone been lapped in a mile won in under 3:51,?

If this was what he can do when he's had a season break and is just getting into first period conditioning, it augurs well for next summer. No reason to think he won't be fit to go 3:28-29/7:26/12:50.

Runner1218 wrote:

Chris Solinsky 6'1 155lb

AR went 12:55?

12:40 and 12:55 are not the same.

not buying it wrote:

he wishes ... wrote:

Did you read my post? Men that large do not race 12:40.xx 5000 metres.

McSweyn is listed at 6’2” and 154 pounds. Why is this too large for sub 12:50 and what is the cut-off point?

Feel free to chart all Olympic track medalists, athletics. Tallest track medalists going back to 1896 are 100m, 200m, 110mH & 400mH medalists. Eight-hundred metre medalists are a bit shorter and the height of medalists decrease gradually with Marathoners being the shortest. There are advantages for tall & strong sprinters sprinting full stride. Height is no advantage 1500m and longer. There happen to be good to great tall 1500m guys but no one says greatest is correlated with height, 1500m. Past 1500m, height greater than average is either neutral or less advantageous. I feel being tall is neutral for 3000m and a negative past 3000m. Charting height only works well for men since Olympic data is limited for women.