New York Times glorifies bullying of teen girl

avoid wrote:

yah, exactly. There is no side that is completely right or completely wrong. I'm not into public shaming and I don't think that blowing up a teenager's path in life right in front of her is the answer.

But it's also stupid to suggest that what the girl did was harmless. Wish there was a better way to deal with all of this.

A three second video of someone saying the N-word does nobody any harm. Absolutely nobody was harmed because of that video. The way to deal with this is not to give narcissists like this attention for trying to ruin an innocent girls life.

timeshavechanged wrote:

non-affirmative action hire wrote:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1343285572295663619?s=20

Democrats are evil.

The problem is not Democrats. The problem is people who do not raise their children properly. If you want to blame someone, blame the girl's parents. Parents who raise their children in the year 2020 as if they are living in the same world in which they grew up are demonstrating a lack of the most basic of parenting skills. By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

Racist behavior and language is okay as long as you're an old, white Democrat I guess.

Huh? The N word is used all the time in films, television and music. If she never directed the word at anyone no one should be offended.

This comes to mind:

https://youtu.be/M1WzR0eke_8

electron1661 wrote:

No reason, based on the title of the post, that this should make the front page. It's clearly false; the NYT isn't glorifying anything. Presenting both sides equally to make the reader question the right decision (I'll give you a hint, it's difficult to determine)

An 18 year old girl’s life ruined for singing rap lyrics as a 14 year old by a propagandized little punk who is intentionally trying to ruin her life. And idiot leftists saying it’s hard to determine who is right.

Prepare for more assaults from these leftist tyrants, and please, sane people, fight back.

Bigballer69 wrote:

Huh? The N word is used all the time in films, television and music. If she never directed the word at anyone no one should be offended.

This comes to mind:

https://youtu.be/M1WzR0eke_8

I'm thinking The New York Times and the wokes on LRC should be organizing a boycott of Youtube. This N-word stuff is all over the place, and there is no racial reckoning,

discrimination is alive and well in 2020 wrote:

timeshavechanged wrote:

By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

This. Americans have shown their ugly side more these last four years than ever before. Never has one individual (and that individual's family) been subject to such horrible, incessant hostility and disgusting accusations as we have seen the last four years.

Yes, people saying mean words is far uglier than bombing Middle Eastern children, destabilizing entire countries, and pillaging resources like the US has done for decades now.

I don't really see any "glorification" in the coverage, but I agree that this is not a story that merits national attention. Right-wing media is now off and running with it, too. Ultimately, this is about a teenaged girl who didn't get to go to her top-choice college because a bunch of people got unreasonably mad on the internet. (A rare occurrence!) That sucks and is not fair, but it's really not that big of a deal and writing the article only makes the situation worse for everyone involved.

In any case, the girl should not have been dragged like that. The guy was in the wrong but keep in mind that he's just a kid, too. It sounds like that school would be a particularly awful place to be black and gay. The kind of environment that could foster some pretty major feelings of resentment and lead to some bad decisions. He is undoubtedly experiencing a tornado of social media hatred now, too.

This is also a story about school administrators not having their sh*t together, per usual. The high school deserves some serious scrutiny for tolerating the kind of racist behavior described in the article. The University of Tennessee overreacted and revoked the girl's admission primarily because it was already in hot water for tolerating way too much racist behavior from students in the past.

A house is on fire. A family stands outside pleading for help. "Our house is so important. We can't lose it. Please, help us save it!"

Their wise neighbor who lives across the street walks up to them as the structure begins to collapse and shakes his head disapprovingly. "I agree that this is a damn shame, " he says, "but don't you realize that ALL houses are important?"

The family immediately realizes how selfish they have been and walk to the homeless shelter hanging their heads in shame.

I don’t think you do wonder. I think you’ve had your mind made up for you long ago.

OP is obviously Rojo

timeshavechanged wrote:

non-affirmative action hire wrote:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1343285572295663619?s=20

Democrats are evil.

The problem is not Democrats. The problem is people who do not raise their children properly. If you want to blame someone, blame the girl's parents. Parents who raise their children in the year 2020 as if they are living in the same world in which they grew up are demonstrating a lack of the most basic of parenting skills. By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

From the article:

"Ms. Groves said racial slurs and hate speech were not tolerated by her parents, who had warned their children to never post anything online that they would not say in person or want their parents and teachers to read."

What's happened to her is disproportionate, but if she hadn't sent the video, she would be cheerleading at Tennessee right now.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

A house is on fire. A family stands outside pleading for help. "Our house is so important. We can't lose it. Please, help us save it!"

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A house is on fire. The family screams “this only happens to people like us, the world is unjust!” The global media instantly unites behind them. Politicians across the spectrum speak tearfully against house fires affecting this type of family. People halfway across the country blame themselves, and demand that you blame yourself, for this fire. Your employer frantically books trainings to ensure that you aren’t an arsonist. It turns out the family was playing with matches, but by this point the facts are irrelevant.

Meanwhile, a dozen other houses are in fire, but they aren’t sympathetic types of families so nobody cares.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

What's happened to her is disproportionate, but if she hadn't sent the video, she would be cheerleading at Tennessee right now.

Some of the things that should be universally known about social media by now:

1. Nothing you do is truly private.

2. Nothing is so stupid or insignificant that it can't become viral.

3. You will never get the benefit of the doubt for the things you've said online.

4. Social media platforms are run by bad/irresponsible people and they have negatively affected individuals and communities in countless ways.

Given what we know, it's best to just not post. Better yet, delete your social media accounts entirely. You're not missing anything important.

all fires matter wrote:

Derp

Derp, indeed. Very well said, Bongo.

This sums it up pretty well though.

All people's lives and livelihoods matter, people of all backgrounds should come together to help those who suffer, whether from house fires or racism (which affects all types of people). This is what community is about, we are all American, we are all one people...or at least should be. Thinking only your side has hardships and blaming others is divisive and toxic. Stop making it a competition, by doing so you automatically lump in all people other than your tribe as the enemy. Try to love one another and not spread hate and jealousy.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote: A house is on fire. A family stands outside pleading for help. "Our house is so important. We can't lose it. Please, help us save it!" . A house is on fire. The family screams “this only happens to people like us, the world is unjust!” The global media instantly unites behind them. Politicians across the spectrum speak tearfully against house fires affecting this type of family. People halfway across the country blame themselves, and demand that you blame yourself, for this fire. Your employer frantically books trainings to ensure that you aren’t an arsonist. It turns out the family was playing with matches, but by this point the facts are irrelevant. Meanwhile, a dozen other houses are in fire, but they aren’t sympathetic types of families so nobody cares.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

What's happened to her is disproportionate, but if she hadn't sent the video, she would be cheerleading at Tennessee right now.

Some of the things that should be universally known about social media by now:

1. Nothing you do is truly private.

2. Nothing is so stupid or insignificant that it can't become viral.

3. You will never get the benefit of the doubt for the things you've said online.

4. Social media platforms are run by bad/irresponsible people and they have negatively affected individuals and communities in countless ways.

Given what we know, it's best to just not post. Better yet, delete your social media accounts entirely. You're not missing anything important.

all fires matter wrote:

Derp

Derp, indeed. Very well said, Bongo.

First, I don't think I understand how to quote multiple posts lol.

Second, what he said made so much sense that was your response??? I think this is a big part of the problem.

Sarah Jeong: NY Times stands by 'racist tweets' reporter

The New York Times has defended a new member of its editorial board who wrote inflammatory tweets about white people.

The newspaper's announcement that it was hiring Sarah Jeong met an outpouring of online criticism after her old posts were unearthed.

“Oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men,” Jeong said in one tweet from 2014 that has since been deleted.

“Dumbazz f---ing white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pssing on fire hydrants,” Jeong said in another tweet from that year.

A third tweet posted by Jeong in 2014 said, “Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins.”

The Times said in a statement at the time that it stood by its decision to hire Jeong and had reviewed the writer's social media accounts prior to her hiring, while calling the content of the tweets "unacceptable."

"We hired Sarah Jeong because of the exceptional work she has done covering the internet and technology at a range of respected publications," the Times said.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534

The problem of "cancel culture" is never going away. This story is a wake up call for parents to make clear to their children how careful they need to be regarding social media. There should also be involvement from the schools as well.

If your 14-year old daughter showed you a cool N-word video she was going to send to a friend, would you be OK with it? What's happening to the girl in the article is unfair, but the situation was easily avoidable

Good read on the hypocrisy that exists regarding the use by blacks and whites.

http://www.collegiatetimes.com/opinion/society-s-use-of-the-n-word-demonstrates-hypocrisy/article_9a252472-401b-11e8-a1fc-3b56b728ab98.html

So you would let your 14-year old daughter send out a N-word video to her friend? How do you and your tribe plan to snuff out cancel culture? You can't, and the best strategy is to not have your children in that situation. I don't know why you would think I support how she was treated. You make it seem like I'm leading the charge.

I heard a lot of Van Halen and Boston when I was at SDSU and have still never listened to rap music.

Look at this tribal sleazebag, he did this all on purpose. Write a song with the N-word everywhere that all the white kids LOVE, and then invite an innocent white girl up on stage to sing along to the N-word song, just setting her up completely so he can humiliate the little innocent white girl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEcugkqcHO8