Surgeon General: Vaccine Will Not Prevent Infection, only Reduce Severe Illness. Wear Masks and Continue Social Distancing

No, I didn't just make it up, entirely (or even partially). I've read it predicted from several sources that most would consider credible (Johns Hopkins journals, Scientific American, WHO, many more). They are easy to find with simple Google searches.

And there is plenty of evidence already that this specific virus will become endemic. It's easily transmitted and has essentially covered the globe in about a year, with cases still rising - and rising faster than ever before - and immunity seems to be measured in months, not years. You could even argue it is already endemic. At this point, I think people should be pressed to explain why it won't be endemic. Can you argue that, Lead Fail Hat?

predicted to be endemic by fear the fear mongering Michael Bloomberg School of Public Health is not anything other than a prediction. You are wrong. It is not yet endemic and we won't know for some time now. Your prediction may be correct someday, but no it is not endemic, at least yet. What evidence is there actually? I would say it is more likely to burn out and disappear forever much like Saf-01 did, but that is just my prediction. Too many scientists taking predictions to the level of truth is really bad science; a major characteristic of 2020 indicating a lot of not modest people pushing into the world of science at high levels.

You know what, I will give you this. The virus could be endemic now if it was, as many have guessed, already endemic prior to 2020. The only thing is, if that is true then it means this whole year was only marked by an awareness and focus on something that was already occurring and had not been noticed; something which many actually think is more reality than not...but it is not allowed to be discussed in the "new science" dogma era.....dogma in, questioning out...it is the new way of science.

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

You know what, I will give you this. The virus could be endemic now if it was, as many have guessed, already endemic prior to 2020. The only thing is, if that is true then it means this whole year was only marked by an awareness and focus on something that was already occurring and had not been noticed; something which many actually think is more reality than not...but it is not allowed to be discussed in the "new science" dogma era.....dogma in, questioning out...it is the new way of science.

I mean, it may not become endemic if the vaccines are as effective as they seem.

But, the idea that the virus has "been here for a while" and is "just getting noticed" is pretty comical. 300k excess deaths in the USA alone? I think that gets noticed.

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

real info wrote:

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

Hey dickhead, you seem pretty proud that people are dying. How about you stick that narcissism where it belong you sick psychopath.

Harambe wrote:

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

You know what, I will give you this. The virus could be endemic now if it was, as many have guessed, already endemic prior to 2020. The only thing is, if that is true then it means this whole year was only marked by an awareness and focus on something that was already occurring and had not been noticed; something which many actually think is more reality than not...but it is not allowed to be discussed in the "new science" dogma era.....dogma in, questioning out...it is the new way of science.

I mean, it may not become endemic if the vaccines are as effective as they seem.

But, the idea that the virus has "been here for a while" and is "just getting noticed" is pretty comical. 300k excess deaths in the USA alone? I think that gets noticed.

It is funny how your 300,000 excess deaths # has not changed in about 3-4 months. Want to speculate on why that is? Again, I am not saying this virus is not real and not harsh enough to take a more than usual number of people out. "real info" is just loving that people are dying though, and that is pretty sick. Who knows how long it has been around....there definitely was a really bad similar type of virus going around in 2018, what was that? What would our excess deaths this year been if we had not scared everyone away from the hospitals? We will never know. See, I am ok will speculations, the problem is you declare your assumptions as facts and then use them to pound your chests in pride and stoke fear and panic. That is not good science or right.

real info wrote:

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

Where are all the flu deaths this season? Why are they not testing for the flu this year at the same rate as covid? Answer that question with honestly. You are still sick and almost hoping people keep dying so you can tell people you were right. Get some help man.

philponderphoto wrote:

mask off wrote:

Yeah, and the vaccine will probably kill quite a few in the high risk category too- because of their reaction to it . It really is stupid that anyone that is younger and healthy would want to take it at all, or should be made too. It's all about $$$ and control.

Jeez. Too bad there’s not a vaccine against ignorance.

Or gullibility

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

real info wrote:

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

Where are all the flu deaths this season? Why are they not testing for the flu this year at the same rate as covid? Answer that question with honestly. You are still sick and almost hoping people keep dying so you can tell people you were right. Get some help man.

Are none.

There was effectively NO flu season in the Southern Hemisphere this year.

real info wrote:

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

I will say it though; you were right. So now you can be super proud of yourself that all of those people died and you demanded it would happen while the rest of us "idiots" were hoping it would not. Psychopath.

pupil3142 wrote:

what is going to be serious is when the tabloids stat comparing numbers of people who have had the vaccine with people dieing vs the general pop.

People who have been vaccinated will be dieing more than the general pop because they are old and otherwise at risk.

But hey, that wont stop the fearmongering....

or the lawyers.....

The lawyers are a non factor.

The companies cannot be sued over any damage done by vaccines.

If that don't scare you...

You can see the excess death figures here as always. They continue to pile up.

I assumed you knew this. You seem to be the type of person who needs everything spelled out for them.

It's laughable to think something of this scale could have happened in 2018 without people noticing. Remember, this is 300k (and climbing) excess deaths with all the mitigation efforts.

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

real info wrote:

Lead Foil, any new thoughts on your prediction that we could not possibly see 2500 deaths per day again? Looks like we're about to hit that as a 7-day average again, let alone what we've seen on particularly bad days. It seems you may not really understand this topic very well.

I will say it though; you were right. So now you can be super proud of yourself that all of those people died and you demanded it would happen while the rest of us "idiots" were hoping it would not. Psychopath.

I mean you continuously downplay the severity of the pandemic. You weren't "hoping," you were saying it wouldn't happen and all the cause for alarm was unfounded.

That's very different. Clearly people were right to be concerned about the winter wave, no?

Das Unkle wrote:

pupil3142 wrote:

what is going to be serious is when the tabloids stat comparing numbers of people who have had the vaccine with people dieing vs the general pop.

People who have been vaccinated will be dieing more than the general pop because they are old and otherwise at risk.

But hey, that wont stop the fearmongering....

or the lawyers.....

The lawyers are a non factor.

The companies cannot be sued over any damage done by vaccines.

If that don't scare you...

Nothing scares me b/c Gates is using 5G to make me docile, right?

It has been 300k for 4 months now. Why is it not climbing higher with all of these new deaths? Maybe it is and you just like saying 300k; if this is the case what is the actual new number, not estimate.

Internet = Human Downfall wrote:

philponderphoto wrote:

Jeez. Too bad there’s not a vaccine against ignorance.

There is. It is called the Red Pill.

Based lad!!!!!!!!!

Fish Hat, you said that I "just made that up, entirely." I gave you a few sources showing you I didn't make it up, entirely or at all. If you want to label one of them a fear monger, it's irrelevant. I didn't make it up. And I could have listed MANY more sources and articles that predict and discuss coronavirus becoming (or even already being) endemic.

The evidence is in the number of people who are infected with coronavirus, the transmissibility, and the apparent immunity duration. You can read all about the potential to become endemic in articles resulting from Google searches I suggested that you do. Alternatively, you can contemplate, using whatever native intelligence and common sense you may have, whether a highly contagious virus, currently existing on every continent, infecting millions of people per day, and with what appears to be relatively short immunity, could become endemic.

And what does "burn out" mean? What process are you trying to describe with "burn out" with respect to a respiratory virus? "Burn out" sounds suspiciously close to "magically disappear" which I suppose is a clue as to how your mind works.

If by "Saf-01" you are referring to SARS, the differences between SARS and Covid should not need to be explained to you.

Who took "predictions to the level of truth" regarding the endemic potential of Covid? Show me where that happened. Just one post before this, you were saying I made the whole thing up. Now you're saying there are "too many scientists" saying what I said. You're a confused person.

By the way, the second clause of that sentence you typed (after the semi-colon) is gibberish. I'm good at figuring out what semi-literate people are trying to say, but I can't decipher that stuff you typed. Total gibberish.

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

It has been 300k for 4 months now. Why is it not climbing higher with all of these new deaths? Maybe it is and you just like saying 300k; if this is the case what is the actual new number, not estimate.

It is climbing higher. You can see that on the CDC website I posted. Did you not even click my link?

It's almost like you don't want to know... hmmm...

Anyway you can download the CSV and see we are at 350k as per the CDC right now, with plenty more death records to process from the last few weeks. Sobering.