I have coronavirus...should i keep running?

Then your doctor is an absolute quack when it comes to virology and spread. And you can tell him that Mike in Middle Tennessee said that he is a selfish jerk.

No MD or DO designation will shield the fact that he is getting your health care dollars from insurance so he only has to look out for your health among the nameless, faceless people he doesn't treat.

The CDC says quarantine. They don't say go walking. They don't say go running. If you want to do that, why not just do that in your garage for the week or two of the virus.

It's you assertive Americans who can't sideline their depravity and the money grubbers who enable it that are the problem.

It's great (for you) that your doctor helped you. But universally, he's an Absolute Jerk, MD.

This article here might just save your life:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/well/move/exercise-covid-recovery-complications-clots-heart-lungs.html?campaign_id=34&emc=edit_sc_20201124&instance_id=24421&nl=science-times&regi_id=51682943&segment_id=45311&te=1&user_id=81f1c71403a4cab77a121d637a7db3ac

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Had COVID not swept through nursing homes, the 2020 death count is guaran freaking teed to be lower. Fact.

If you can't breathe, you're more likely to die. Fact.

A nursing home is not a hospice. Two different foci. Fact.

You have no facts to the contrary pops.

I must be stupid to keep trying to get a response from you that is of any value.

Last try:

How many of those 270k people, with a median age of 80 plus year, 94% of whom had at least two other life threatening health conditions, and 45% of whom lived in nursing homes (where median life expectancy is five months), do you supposed would have died this year if there was no Covid? None of them?

john deere green wrote:

Stoppit Steve wrote:

When I tested positive (with symptoms) my doctor literally told me to go outside with a mask on walks where I could be socially distanced from people because it can help clear my lungs and help me recover faster.

I would walk a sparsely populated loop early in the morning and late at night so I didn't see anyone. I never even saw one person on these walks. SO, I don't see why someone who is asymptomatic cant go on safe runs as long as they are staying away from people and being smart. Obviously it depends on your situation but this worked out for me.

Maybe you don't remember that the virus aerosols can suspend in the air for up to 12 hours. People walking that same route 12 hours later may be infected by you. FoLlOW tHe ScIEnCEe.

Quit spreading false and/or misleading information.

No.

What you are doing is trying to phrase questions to groom the answer you wish to see come from my words to suit your case!

You're not getting that, pops.

I answered your question already. You asked specifically for my supposition about the deaths and I specifically told you that if COVID-19 had not swept through the nursing homes, there would have been a lot fewer deaths.

You want me to automatically accept your premise that those in the nursing homes were already predisposed to die this year, and you're not getting it because that is not the true narrative --it's yours.

You got your answer.

Scientifically, he's correct.

When science is correct, it doesn't give a rat's behind whether you like it or it inconveniences you.

Nothing he said was false nor misleading.

say what bro wrote:

john deere green wrote:

Maybe you don't remember that the virus aerosols can suspend in the air for up to 12 hours. People walking that same route 12 hours later may be infected by you. FoLlOW tHe ScIEnCEe.

Quit spreading false and/or misleading information.

Is my SciEnCe not sciencey enough for you?

How bout

"Other laboratory studies suggest that aerosols of SARS-CoV-2 remain infectious for longer than do aerosols of some related respiratory viruses. When researchers created aerosols of the new coronavirus, the aerosols remained infectious for at least 16 hours, and had greater infectivity than did those of the coronaviruses SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV, which cause severe acute respiratory syndrome and Middle East respiratory syndrome, respectively"

Which science should we be following? Mine or the version of science you agree with?

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Scientifically, he's correct.

When science is correct, it doesn't give a rat's behind whether you like it or it inconveniences you.

Nothing he said was false nor misleading.

Scientifically he is incorrect. And so are you.

We already know you are a huge pvssy.

You're not tough, yourself just because your name is in caps.

Fronting doesn't change my opinion.

Or the fact that he is correct.

How about that?

[quote]Stoppit Smith wrote:

You want me to automatically accept your premise that those in the nursing homes were already predisposed to die this year, and you're not getting it because that is not the true narrative --it's yours.

Well, seeing as how the median life expectancy in a nursing home is five months, and that the group that died with Covid was sicker than most based on the fact nearly all of them had at least two other life threatening conditions, it is more than a premise that many of those would have died this year absent the Covid. This is beyond debate. Yet you refuse to admit it because it would run counter to your worldview.

You don't have the statistics to prove that this is beyond debate.

Really, really wishing it to be does not constitute facts, dude

Stoppit Smith wrote:

You don't have the statistics to prove that this is beyond debate.

Really, really wishing it to be does not constitute facts, dude

Not my stats.

Stats from the CDC as far as how many of the Covid deaths have occurred in nursing homes and how many had at least two comorbidities, as well as a list of what those comorbidities are.

And the median life expectancy in nursing homes, that is based on studies which you could easily find if you were not afraid of what you would find.

Here is one.

The key findings:

The length of stay data were striking:

-the median length of stay in a nursing home before death was 5 months

-the average length of stay was longer at 14 months due to a small number of study participants

who had very long lengths of stay

-65% died within 1 year of nursing home admission

-53% died within 6 months of nursing home admission .

So we are talking facts and data and stats and reality. Not wishing it to be. That's your approach

Ah...i see your glaring error. You don't understand statistics.

You like the median because it's much lower.

But if the median is 5 months and the average is 14 months, that means that the mode is considerably higher than the median and the range is more widespread than you are indicating.

The statistics you showed me, considering the pandemic has been here 8.5 months,actually argue for the case of Covid causing the massive earlier deaths than other natural causes.

You're welcome.

Why worry?

Trump has it under control.

https://trumpgolfcount.com

Perfect!

Lol

Stoppit Smith wrote:

None of you are good enough runners to encourage him to keep running while risking others' lives.

And he's not accomplished enough to be able to do that with a POSITIVE TEST.

If he missed 10-14 days ..so what. There's no gold medal waiting for him today

Sadly you’re right. If you even have to ask this question on letsrun you’re probably just a hobby jogger that’s upset they didn’t get to PR at this years turkey trot.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

If you tested positive, you need to be quarantined.

Simple.

This doesn't mean roaming the neighborhood like a freaking typical Ohioan pack dogs...yes you're all the same in Ohio.

It means stay home until you test negative or have been suitably quarantined.

But you know this. But like a typical freaking Ohioan in typical blue collar Cleveland, you'll go out and infect others, because you can't comprehend beyond the smog emissions in your dirty factories that staying home is a requirement.

The answer is NO. But you'll do what you want because Trump loves Ohio and he'd give everyone Covid if he could ...so would you.

No symptoms and he can't go outside? Where is that a rule. Keep trading but avoid people until you are clear. The best thing for your health is to keep training and stay healthy. Avoiding people and running should be possible anywhere.

123 5 wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Precisely.

Glad you understand.

I pity you, living your life in fear, "dude".

+1

123 5 wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Who in the name of God do you really freaking think you are trying to intimidate me speaking to me about this issue from another country.

You feel intimidated because a person from another country talks to you?

Lmao

You are an even bigger coward than I thought.

A coward, and insufferable, too