250,000 Americans have died from COVID

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Average years of life lost to a COVID death is ~10. I think most people don't want to give up 10 years of their lives. That's what I would say.

If that's true, the average American has lost 2.7 days of their lives due to coronavirus. But we've lost several weeks to lockdowns, several more months of reduced quality of life, and more months to come with lockdowns 2 and 3 on the way.

In that case, we should end all lockdowns immediately and let people get back to their lives. Those afraid of dying can isolate themselves if they choose and accept the consequences.

"You see deaths are not actually bad because not everyone dies at the same time."

SMH dude

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

If that's true, the average American has lost 2.7 days of their lives due to coronavirus. But we've lost several weeks to lockdowns, several more months of reduced quality of life, and more months to come with lockdowns 2 and 3 on the way.

In that case, we should end all lockdowns immediately and let people get back to their lives. Those afraid of dying can isolate themselves if they choose and accept the consequences.

"You see deaths are not actually bad because not everyone dies at the same time."

SMH dude

Correct, everyone dies eventually. Coronavirus's impact on life expectency so far is 2.7 days. Maybe that will go up. I would gladly trade more than 2.7 days of life expectancy to end all covid lockdowns.

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Harambe wrote:

"You see deaths are not actually bad because not everyone dies at the same time."

SMH dude

Correct, everyone dies eventually. Coronavirus's impact on life expectency so far is 2.7 days. Maybe that will go up. I would gladly trade more than 2.7 days of life expectancy to end all covid lockdowns.

"WWI only changed average life expectancy by a few days. It wasn't that bad."

You know, just because you repeat a lie over and over it doesn't make it true. Reality deniers like yourself can't provide any proof other than Gates-funded, Johns Hopkins sourced, info that mass media blurbs out in unison. It's kind of like their water level rising, polar caps disappearing, weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, war on drugs, etc , etc BS done in unison that we've heard for years. This is no different. It's just suckers like you getting played. Over and over.

Interesting life you have. Trying to prove a non-existant thing to exist. You have a long road ahead of you.

rose butt wrote:

You know, just because you repeat a lie over and over it doesn't make it true. Reality deniers like yourself can't provide any proof other than Gates-funded, Johns Hopkins sourced, info that mass media blurbs out in unison. It's kind of like their water level rising, polar caps disappearing, weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, war on drugs, etc , etc BS done in unison that we've heard for years. This is no different. It's just suckers like you getting played. Over and over.

Interesting life you have. Trying to prove a non-existant thing to exist. You have a long road ahead of you.

Muh Bill Gates 5G vaccine.

Don't worry - take your HCQ - Q will come to save you after he solves the election fraud!!1

Correction, 250,000 died with COVID. Given the financial incentives in the CARES act for hospitals and cash strapped states to classify as many deaths as possible as COVID deaths, it is impossible to know the actual number. Wear a mask, but stop acting like this is the Apocalypse. Stop the nonsense of shutting schools, shutting businesses and cancelling every sporting event. It's a pandemic. Some people will die (maybe 0.2%) and the strong will survive. Just like every other pandemic humankind has faced over the past 300,000 years.

Harambe wrote:

rose butt wrote:

You know, just because you repeat a lie over and over it doesn't make it true. Reality deniers like yourself can't provide any proof other than Gates-funded, Johns Hopkins sourced, info that mass media blurbs out in unison. It's kind of like their water level rising, polar caps disappearing, weapons of mass destruction, war on terror, war on drugs, etc , etc BS done in unison that we've heard for years. This is no different. It's just suckers like you getting played. Over and over.

Interesting life you have. Trying to prove a non-existant thing to exist. You have a long road ahead of you.

Muh Bill Gates 5G vaccine.

Don't worry - take your HCQ - Q will come to save you after he solves the election fraud!!1

Ooooh. Brain damage? Told you not to get that vaccine.

Sorry for your loss.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Correct, everyone dies eventually. Coronavirus's impact on life expectency so far is 2.7 days. Maybe that will go up. I would gladly trade more than 2.7 days of life expectancy to end all covid lockdowns.

"WWI only changed average life expectancy by a few days. It wasn't that bad."

World War 1 subtracted at least a YEAR off the GLOBAL life expectancy. Think about that. 40 million dead out of a global population of only 1 billion and most of them were 18 year old kids with their whole lives ahead of them. This is making my point perfectly.

joedurt wrote:

Correction, 250,000 died with COVID. Given the financial incentives in the CARES act for hospitals and cash strapped states to classify as many deaths as possible as COVID deaths, it is impossible to know the actual number. Wear a mask, but stop acting like this is the Apocalypse. Stop the nonsense of shutting schools, shutting businesses and cancelling every sporting event. It's a pandemic. Some people will die (maybe 0.2%) and the strong will survive. Just like every other pandemic humankind has faced over the past 300,000 years.

So doctors all around the country committed Medicare fraud by the hundreds of thousand? Nobody caught them?

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

World War 1 subtracted at least a YEAR off the GLOBAL life expectancy. Think about that. 40 million dead out of a global population of only 1 billion and most of them were 18 year old kids with their whole lives ahead of them. This is making my point perfectly.

And a virus has already killed more in the USA than WWI did in 4 years.

Exactly. It's harrowing stuff!

rose butt wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Muh Bill Gates 5G vaccine.

Don't worry - take your HCQ - Q will come to save you after he solves the election fraud!!1

Ooooh. Brain damage? Told you not to get that vaccine.

Sorry for your loss.

Excellent self diagnosis. Sorry you cant pass 7th grade math :(

joedurt wrote:

Correction, 250,000 died with COVID.

why do you keep repeating this nonsense?

300,000 more people have died compared to last year

Coronadoomer wrote:

voted out, pants out wrote:

gonna be really awkward for you deniers to explain why more Americans have already died this year than all of last year once we pass last year totals any day now......

why are total deaths up almost 10% this year if this is all fake? and don't even try with the supposed lockdown causing it all, that tired argument has been shredded multiple times. Or that it's a natural increase....year over year increase is nowhere near 10%......plus if it was natural increase it why was it flat until march then skyrocket?

as the math inevitable works its way out, it's undeniable that you deniers were delusional reality deniers from day one.

And then 2021 will have 10% fewer deaths than "normal" because all those people died a couple months earlier than they would have.

back in march /April you were saying that no more people would die this year tan normal because all the people dying then would have died later in the year....

so now that's been proven false you move it to 2021.....and in 2021 you will move it 2022.

here's a hint....stop waiting for those averages to balance out.....the average person dying of COVID had a decade left to live, not months like you math challenged deniers like to pretend.

DanM wrote:

Before COVID-19 appeared, the projection was for 2.56 Million people to die in the US from Jan. 1 to Nov. 19, 2020.

Many of those 250,000 people would have died in 2020 regardless of any COVID-19 infection. They would have been part of the 2.9 Million who were projected to die in the US for the full year 2020.

then please explain why so many more Americans than predicted died this year? if you are right, and it's just people who would have died later in the year anyway....then why are going to finish 2020 with so many more deaths than expected?

I mean you would have to have almost zero deaths from now till the end of the year for things to balance out....is that what you are expecting?

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

Correct, everyone dies eventually. Coronavirus's impact on life expectency so far is 2.7 days. Maybe that will go up. I would gladly trade more than 2.7 days of life expectancy to end all covid lockdowns.

"WWI only changed average life expectancy by a few days. It wasn't that bad."

Don't even mention the war, you slimy coward. You would be cowering in your basement if there was one.

363 new cases and 3 deaths in South Korea...

52mil population

Approx 192,000 cases and 2000 deaths in the US.....

Do the math. US has 100x the cases and deaths per population.

But masks don't work?

Alan

Harambe wrote:

kall me koolio wrote:

Although he would likely be a lot closer than your far worse "verifiably false" numbers.

Rofl. By what metric? Closer to looking like a moron?

Wanna run the numbers? 11,800,000 cases/2600 cases how many fold off was he?

No. Look, fool, 250k is not how many people died of coronaviral disease in the US. It's verifiably false because many of the cases on inspection have been proven not to have died of coronaviral disease.

The true number is somewhere between 0 and 249k. No matter how much you spazz out (just looking at page 3, get a grip dude) and no matter how you try to impugn my authority, the point stands. No, 250k people did not die of covid-19 in the US. It's thoroughly and well debunked.

Bad WIgins

why do you keep pretending not to know that nearly 300k more Americans have died this year than normal? Do you not look at charts?

All causes deaths WAAAY up. has nothing to do with how they are tagged....more people are dying period.

And don't even pretend it's lockdown deaths unless you have some actual solid stats that show this.

Harambe wrote:

CarbonFiberJoe wrote:

World War 1 subtracted at least a YEAR off the GLOBAL life expectancy. Think about that. 40 million dead out of a global population of only 1 billion and most of them were 18 year old kids with their whole lives ahead of them. This is making my point perfectly.

And a virus has already killed more in the USA than WWI did in 4 years.

Exactly. It's harrowing stuff!

This human actually thinks that an 80 year old life is worth the same as an 20 year old life.