Stop it. Just stop with the stupidity that if we only wear masks, we'll "open up again."

Star wrote:

But people are frustrated at those not taking precautions and carelessly spreading the virus with large gatherings.

Not people. Ignorant mindless sheep are told to be frustrated.

There is no devastating virus out there. Something slightly worse than most (not all) flus, is all. Get over it and you'll be at square one to react intelligently.

Until then, you're just a panicked fearmonger, spreading something far worse than any virus.

It's not "just wear masks." It's "wear masks as one of around six basic public health measures that, taken together, can make a big difference."

Wear a mask

Maintain distance

Avoid indoor spaces

Improve ventilation

Avoid contact with people outside your household

Wash your hands

real info wrote:

It's not "just wear masks." It's "wear masks as one of around six basic public health measures that, taken together, can make a big difference."

Wear a mask

Maintain distance

Avoid indoor spaces

Improve ventilation

Avoid contact with people outside your household

Wash your hands

Yes.

Canada has high mask compliance and listened to the science. They are doing lot better than the U.S.

If society prospers we all benefit. If society is not doing well, most of us suffer (as with the pandemic dragging on). If everyone put in a serious effort to stop the virus, things would go back to normal faster.

Masks work. The problem is people are stupid. Yes, people where masks when they go to stores or workplaces that require them. But with neighbors, family, friends? No. My sister claims she is being very "cautious" and taking precautions. But on her Facebook feed, she's at a different friend's house every night, no one wearing masks.

I went to a kid's birthday party a couple months ago. 20 kids, probably about 20 parents, no one wore masks or social distanced.

I'm fine with establishing a pod of people you don't have to wear masks around. But when you socialize outside that pod, you have to wear masks and social distance. And most people don't.

Compliance is freedom wrote:

There's already a legal mask mandate in 37 out of 50 states and a mandate in most major cities in the remaining states. Cases are spiking in every one of them. Just admit that you want a lockdown and stop pretending we'll "open up again" if people comply.

That's because there are too many dummies like you who either choose not to follow the mandate or do irresponsible things like, uh, attend a huge rally with thousands of like minded idiots.

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Masks work. The problem is people are stupid. Yes, people where masks when they go to stores or workplaces that require them. But with neighbors, family, friends? No. My sister claims she is being very "cautious" and taking precautions. But on her Facebook feed, she's at a different friend's house every night, no one wearing masks.

I went to a kid's birthday party a couple months ago. 20 kids, probably about 20 parents, no one wore masks or social distanced.

I'm fine with establishing a pod of people you don't have to wear masks around. But when you socialize outside that pod, you have to wear masks and social distance. And most people don't.

That's because many people have decided that getting covid is preferable to wearing a mask 24/7.

I agree.

no masks please wrote:

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Masks work. The problem is people are stupid. Yes, people where masks when they go to stores or workplaces that require them. But with neighbors, family, friends? No. My sister claims she is being very "cautious" and taking precautions. But on her Facebook feed, she's at a different friend's house every night, no one wearing masks.

I went to a kid's birthday party a couple months ago. 20 kids, probably about 20 parents, no one wore masks or social distanced.

I'm fine with establishing a pod of people you don't have to wear masks around. But when you socialize outside that pod, you have to wear masks and social distance. And most people don't.

That's because many people have decided that getting covid is preferable to wearing a mask 24/7.

I agree.

Again with the exaggerations. 24/7? I find myself in situations where I have to wear a mask maybe 0.5/7. Granted, I'm fortunate enough to work from home, so maybe for a lot of people it's 8.5/7.

I went for a 6 hour hike this weekend. Brought a mask. When I saw someone else on the trail, I put the mask on for the ~30 seconds we were within maybe ~20 yards of each other. I probably had my mask on for less than 10 minutes total out of 6 hours.

Please answer my question. Why do you feel the need to exaggerate things to make your point?

no masks please wrote:

That's because many people have decided that getting covid is preferable to wearing a mask 24/7.

1. "getting covid" -- it's not just about you[/i} getting COVID. It's about you spreading it to other more vulnerable populations.

2. "24/7" -- that's obviously absurd

3. This is a temporary situation. Hopefully pandemic ends in a few months with a combo of vaccine and reduced numbers because enough people have followed basic protocols. Which means economy ramps back up to normal, and masks go away.

So...obviously far less than 24/7, for a few more months, in order to save other people's lives.

Compliance is freedom wrote:

Rasin bland wrote:

Um.. Europe is doing better than us. Don't even..

5,141 coronavirus deaths yesterday in Europe.

1,971 in the US.

Depends how you squint at it I guess.

Update Europe number - 5809. But I mean, it's twice the population as the US, so.....oh wait, even per capita they are doing worse. Man, it's a good thing they stopped it over the summer.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Not people. Ignorant mindless sheep are told to be frustrated.

you mean these mindless sheep:

The screening process is flawed in so many ways. the reporting of by the media is a complete joke. Once again, just look at the numbers, does this even make sense? The sensitivity of these tests is reporting even the smallest molecule of. Think drug testing. You go for a piss test and a detection of marijuana or other illegal or controlled substance is detected. Test is then sent for confirmation of level using GCMS technology. If the level is above specific threshold it's then considered positive. Prior to March 2020, every year, how many people were walking around considered asymptomatic with flu or cold virus. Millions. Again, those at greatest risk are compromised immune system (genetic or illness developed onset) age 80 and over. 65% or greater of deaths have occurred in nursing home environments. Those with immune disorders know very well of their risk to flu, cold virus well before this Covid debacle. They take necessary and precautionary steps to protect themselves. Nursing home patients are basically in god's waiting room and those with compromised health issues on top of age are those passing quicker than others. Lets dum this down even farther. How many people test positive for high cholesterol everyday? Are everyone of these positive results going to end up in a heart attach death? Of course not. Yes, there is a virus, yes it's more complex to deal with, however just looking at the media posting their daily babble and numbers, none of this makes sense.

You won't get an answer wrote:

Compliance is freedom wrote:

5,141 coronavirus deaths yesterday in Europe.

1,971 in the US.

Depends how you squint at it I guess.

Update Europe number - 5809. But I mean, it's twice the population as the US, so.....oh wait, even per capita they are doing worse. Man, it's a good thing they stopped it over the summer.

All those European deaths are on Trump's hands!!!! Not a single one would have died if Hilliary was president or we had allowed AOC to pass the Green New Deal.

What do you think is happening here?

Bad Wigins wrote:

Star wrote:

But people are frustrated at those not taking precautions and carelessly spreading the virus with large gatherings.

Not people. Ignorant mindless sheep are told to be frustrated.

There is no devastating virus out there. Something slightly worse than most (not all) flus, is all. Get over it and you'll be at square one to react intelligently.

Until then, you're just a panicked fearmonger, spreading something far worse than any virus.

says the ignorant clown that thought this thing peaked back in March.

You were more wrong on this than I've seen anyone be wrong about anything, ever.

And yet you pretend like it wasn't you who was clueless and continue to insult others.

Do you even look at charts? ? ?

PS..your election day call hasn't aged any better either......

' you morans, Biden has ZERO chance!!! GA, AZ, WI, MI all should been called for Trump LONG ago....Biden has no chance in any of those!!'- Bad Wigins

once again....math eludes you!!

lololol......clown city!

voted out, pants out wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

[worthless bull***t]

says the ignorant clown that thought this thing peaked back in March.

You were more wrong on this than I've seen anyone be wrong about anything, ever.

And yet you pretend like it wasn't you who was clueless and continue to insult others.

Do you even look at charts? ? ?

PS..your election day call hasn't aged any better either......

' you morans, Biden has ZERO chance!!! GA, AZ, WI, MI all should been called for Trump LONG ago....Biden has no chance in any of those!!'- Bad Wigins

once again....math eludes you!!

lololol......clown city!

https://imgur.com/a/W9ZZ7rV

Wow. Well played.

Compliance is freedom wrote:

There's already a legal mask mandate in 37 out of 50 states and a mandate in most major cities in the remaining states. Cases are spiking in every one of them. Just admit that you want a lockdown and stop pretending we'll "open up again" if people comply.

You sound really smart. Ha, ha, just kidding, but I think you probably already know that. In the past I have always thought of runners overall as a fairly intelligent group, but these past 6-8 months have definitely thrown that theory out the window. Yes, there are people like Bad Wiggins that are definitely at the bottom of the intelligence scale, but so many others also seem to have such a difficult time grasping even the most basic of concepts. And when they don't understand something, instead of trying to educate themselves, they label it as fake news or a liberal agenda.

You sound really smart too. And this was a great, complete, and well-thought out counter argument to my post. Haha, just kidding.

No one has ever been able to adequately explain to me why people would WANT a lockdown.

Think about motivation for 2 seconds and you can easily debunk most conspiracy theories.

Masks help prevent transmission, but tons of people are flaunting the guidelines, both in public and with large private gatherings. That's why it's not under control. It's not because masks don't work - they do, when everyone wears them and limits time spent indoors with people outside those they live with.

Why are you completely incapable of using the basic quote function?