New D-II National Rankings

I'd agree, Chico put a decent hurt on CAL at the stanford invite, with 4 in front of their 1st and 5 in before their 2nd. CAL had 7 in before abilenes 4th man at chile pepper. maybe they ran poorly, or were holding a guy out or something, but a 3:30 or more gap, I don't care how good your top guy is, THATS WAY TOO BIG

Thanks to those who understand that doing the nationals rankings isn't easy. I can't please everyone. I believe that I said earlier that if Chico ran awesome at nationals that they'd have a chance to win and I got slammed. I still think they can win.

Abilene did run pretty well at Chile Pepper without their usual #4...

Naimadu 28:31

Birgen 29:55

Gasore 30:41

Nkurunziza 31:44

Okello 32:13

I didn't see Lucke Hadabe in the results (who was right up there near Gasore at the OSU meet). If you throw him in there at say 31:00, they are tough.

That said, I probably do agree with you that Chico should be ahead of Abilene. I didn't realize that both teams had raced a common opponent (in Cal). I just looked at the Abilene results and figured that with Hadabe running, they didn't deserve to fall. That Chile Pepper course is smoking fast, and I should have taken that into account. There is no doubt in my mind that Chico will run well when it counts.

Anyways, until we get teams from across the country racing each other on a consistent basis (wouldn't it be great to see an early October Chico vs. Adams vs. Abilene vs. Grand Valley vs. Lock Haven, etc showdown???), it will be tough to compare each of the regions. Hopefully I don't make anyone TOO mad with the rankings each week. If you team isn't up where you want it to be, prove me wrong. Two years ago, that's what I had to do. It if fun, and makes for a good story. Good luck to everyone with your upcoming conference, regional, and hopefully national meets.

One more thing... If any of you want to have any input in the rankings (ie, helping me make more informed decisions), please email me any observations that you may have from your respective conference and regional meets. I can find the results online so I don't need help with that, but stuff like "Edinboro ran as a pack for the first 5k and then moved" or "Wayne State's #3 is injured and sat out but will be back for regionals" would be helpful. If you think some team has peaked, let me know. If some team will come on strong (ideally with some rational/observations), then let me know. Oh, one more thing. Observations about the respective courses (difficulty, footing, weather, not a full 8k, etc) would be nice too. Thanks!

dii xc wrote:

(wouldn't it be great to see an early October Chico vs. Adams vs. Abilene vs. Grand Valley vs. Lock Haven, etc showdown???)

Heck yeah, that would be awesome, but sadly I think that most of these teams' travel budgets wouldn't allow for such an XC extravaganza.

That wouldn't be a showdown that would be a massacre. Adams is the best in DII no other schools can even compete with them. It's actually unfair that they have to go to DII nationals because it's gonna be a joke. They should be allowed to go to DIs instead. They are just gonna make every other DII school look bad come nationals.

I'd comment on how you probably go to Adams, but I doubt you even go there. I'm guessing you are one of those obsessive little fans that goes to the Adams meets and wears the clothes you bought from the gift shop. Then you jump in the cheering group and run around with them, feeling as if you belong.

Go paint yourself green or something you moron. Adams is an amazing team, they don't need people like you advertising it and make them look like the jerks that they aren't.

I actually do go to Adams

yeah right wrote:

I actually do go to Adams

I'm positive that coach martin doesn't want you on these message boards. Now go run.

dii xc wrote: \"until we get teams from across the country racing each other on a consistent basis\"

Not going to say what my beliefs are because they\'re not relevant but the stated D2 philosophy is to stress regionality. Good or bad, that\'s the deal. As to whether or not that actually happens (all sports) you be the judge :-\\

Coach-thanks for your effort with the rankings this year. I notice that there have been a lot of missing regions on the weeklies. Are you having trouble getting reports from regional coordinators? If so I think that\'s terrible! In many areas the rankings are all the XC news that gets printed in the local paper. Wish other coaches would see the value in getting our names out there.

were you trying to come off as a tool, or does it come naturally to you?

EITS don't you go to Adams too

of course, don't be silly.

if you really go to asc then tell me why its so easy to please me.

Technically speaking, its Stonehill (1 word).

Stonehill Alumni wrote:

Technically speaking, its Stonehill (1 word).

I keep seeing this Stone Hill. Where is it anyway?

Why do you Adams kids gotta get on this and post? It just shows that you guys are cocky and have no class. Why don't you guys quit ripping on DII and go run?

OK we all know that adams and western have enough class not to write on this thing. I know that for a fact...the only people from either school that write on this thing is the slow groupies or the "I wish I could" people. So lets leave it at that.

Yeah, whenever it says no report, it means that the regional rep (or regional ranking coordinator... it is different in some cases) did not get their regional rankings to me.

The latest mens rankings....a few changes...

1. Adams State

2. Chico State (3)

3. Western State (4)

4. Abilene Christian (2)

5. Grand Valley State

6. Harding

7. Wayne State (8)

8. Colorado School Of Mines (9)

9. Southern Indiana (14)

10. Lock Haven (11)

11. Stonehill (15)

12. U Mass Lowell (10)

13. Shippensburg

14. Edinboro (17)

15. Alaska Anchorage (20)

16. Saginaw Valley (7)

17. Missouri Southern (NR)

18. Minnesota State Mankato

19. Lewis (NR)

20. East Central Oklahoma (12)

21. Cal Poly Pomona (NR)

22. Hillsdale (21)

23. Central Missouri (19)

24. UC San Diego (16)

25. Slippery Rock