Fraud occurred. Nothing new. Biden was determined to be the next POTUS .
Fraud occurred. Nothing new. Biden was determined to be the next POTUS .
stanky legs wrote:
Fraud occurred. Nothing new. Biden was determined to be the next POTUS .
Oh ok, I was told for weeks the election was on the cusp of being overturned.
If Trump were truly God's chosen leader... he would've given us a Christmas miracle!
fasciz wrote:
Based on my Trump supporting friends' social media, they now want Justice Roberts' head.
Obviously
(1) the deep state got to him
or
(2)the Supreme Court are cowards because they are afraid of rioting in the cities
or
(3) Roberts is a rhino or a never Trumper
One thing for sure, its not because there was no evidence. Trump actually won in a landslide and nothin could convince me otherwise!
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Trump actually won in a landslide and nothin could convince me otherwise!
Especailly when Trump spent 8 months publically telling the world that he was going to contest the election results, how he was going to do it with lawsuits, then did it exactly as he claimed he would.
I used to think he was such a joke, but compared to those who justify his actions and refuse to look at things honestly, he is just an 'average' idiot.
According to Trump:
The pandemic is a hoax made up by the Democrats
The 2020 Election fraud was pulled off by the Democrats even though there is no evidence.
If true, the Democratic Party is the most sophisticated organization in the world and I want them running this country!
The reality is that Trump has tens of millions of suporters, Biden has about seven million more.
oldmanbythesea wrote:
According to Trump:
The pandemic is a hoax made up by the Democrats
The 2020 Election fraud was pulled off by the Democrats even though there is no evidence.
If true, the Democratic Party is the most sophisticated organization in the world and I want them running this country!
The reality is that Trump has tens of millions of suporters, Biden has about seven million more.
Do you practice being an a$$hole?
So glad I found this thread. The Official Trump thread has turned into a sh!t show of ignorance and hate, so let's see if we can have a serious discussion here.
First off, once it was called for Biden it was never going to be overturned. Anyone who believed that was possible hasn't been paying attention to the way justice works in this country right now.
So we are NOT talking about who will be the next President. It's going to be Kamala Harris .... and that debate is over.
These are questions we should be talking about:
1. Was there significant fraud in the election?
2. Was the fraud enough to push Biden over the top?
3. Is election fraud investigated and punished?
4. Is our representative republic dead?
DiscoGary wrote:
These are questions we should be talking about:
1. Was there significant fraud in the election?
2. Was the fraud enough to push Biden over the top?
3. Is election fraud investigated and punished?
4. Is our representative republic dead?
1. No. If there had been even Trumps clown car counselors would’ve presented something in court at some point during at least 1 of their 50+ suits.
2. Seeing as how the one documented case of admitted voter fraud that vote was for Trump I doubt that there was any benefit to Biden in that regard.
3. Yes it is. That’s why that Trump voter in PA who registered and voted for his dead mother has been charged and no doubt will be punished.
4. Our republic is holding up mainly because the courts have held up their end of the bargain. If this had been left up to sycophantic elected representatives they would’ve burned it all down.
Raggedman wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
These are questions we should be talking about:
1. Was there significant fraud in the election?
2. Was the fraud enough to push Biden over the top?
3. Is election fraud investigated and punished?
4. Is our representative republic dead?
1. No. If there had been even Trumps clown car counselors would’ve presented something in court at some point during at least 1 of their 50+ suits.
2. Seeing as how the one documented case of admitted voter fraud that vote was for Trump I doubt that there was any benefit to Biden in that regard.
3. Yes it is. That’s why that Trump voter in PA who registered and voted for his dead mother has been charged and no doubt will be punished.
4. Our republic is holding up mainly because the courts have held up their end of the bargain. If this had been left up to sycophantic elected representatives they would’ve burned it all down.
So think the only fraud that occurred was by Trump voters? You haven't seen evidence of voter fraud on behalf of Biden?
... and your basic case is that judges are not taking any cases of voter fraud presented by Trump's lawyers? True?
Maybe based on this “serious” thread that produced f!ck all support.
Raggedman wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
These are questions we should be talking about:
1. Was there significant fraud in the election?
2. Was the fraud enough to push Biden over the top?
3. Is election fraud investigated and punished?
4. Is our representative republic dead?
1. No. If there had been even Trumps clown car counselors would’ve presented something in court at some point during at least 1 of their 50+ suits.
2. Seeing as how the one documented case of admitted voter fraud that vote was for Trump I doubt that there was any benefit to Biden in that regard.
3. Yes it is. That’s why that Trump voter in PA who registered and voted for his dead mother has been charged and no doubt will be punished.
4. Our republic is holding up mainly because the courts have held up their end of the bargain. If this had been left up to sycophantic elected representatives they would’ve burned it all down.
This sums it up right here. All verifiable truths of what occurred.
DiscoGary wrote:
... and your basic case is that judges are not taking any cases of voter fraud presented by Trump's lawyers? True?
Do you honestly think that if there was a coup via election fraud going on that people within the system would allow it to be publicly proven? Just suspend disbelief here for a moment.
Drew HUNTER wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
... and your basic case is that judges are not taking any cases of voter fraud presented by Trump's lawyers? True?
Do you honestly think that if there was a coup via election fraud going on that people within the system would allow it to be publicly proven? Just suspend disbelief here for a moment.
I'm just saying, people don't seem to understand how corruption works, the media and politicians generally don't admit to it publicly so I'm not sure why people expect that from them. And people poopoo every witness who comes forward with a sworn affidavit claiming election fraud (which includes democrats). Let's open our minds a little bit and use some critical thinking before giving in to the media narrative.
DiscoGary wrote:
Raggedman wrote:
1. No. If there had been even Trumps clown car counselors would’ve presented something in court at some point during at least 1 of their 50+ suits.
2. Seeing as how the one documented case of admitted voter fraud that vote was for Trump I doubt that there was any benefit to Biden in that regard.
3. Yes it is. That’s why that Trump voter in PA who registered and voted for his dead mother has been charged and no doubt will be punished.
4. Our republic is holding up mainly because the courts have held up their end of the bargain. If this had been left up to sycophantic elected representatives they would’ve burned it all down.
So think the only fraud that occurred was by Trump voters? You haven't seen evidence of voter fraud on behalf of Biden?
If you've seen evidence of significant voter fraud in favor of Biden, give Rudy G. a call. He's been looking for this evidence, but hasn't been able to find any yet.
And will the Republicans honor their word, and pay a bounty for evidence of voter fraud as they promised they would? Even if the only evidence of fraud is in favor of Trump? I doubt it.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/texas-dan-patrick-prepared-part-his-1-million-reward-n1252419----------------------------------------------------------------------
Even Newsmax had to admit defeat on its Dominion conspiracy theory:
“Newsmax has found no evidence that either Dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” Tabacco told his viewers. “We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic software or vice-versa. No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic used software or reprogrammed software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election.”
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No proof of fraud, as per a Trump appointed judge:
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,” 3rd Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, wrote for the three-judge panel, all appointed by Republican presidents.
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2012: Trump claims that voting machines magically changed votes for Romney into votes for Obama.
2016: Trump claims that Lyin' Ted Cruz cheated in the Iowa caucuses, and that the election was rigged.
2016: Trump claims that thousands of illegal voters took busses into NH and voted illegally in the Presidential election. Later creates a Voter Fraud Commission which can't come up with any proof that this happened.
But this time, the election really was fraudulent?
Drew HUNTER wrote:
Do you honestly think that if there was a coup via election fraud going on that people within the system would allow it to be publicly proven? Just suspend disbelief here for a moment.
Don't forget that some of the judges that ruled there is no evidence in the 50+ thrown out cases, are GOP judges appointed or pushed by Trump himself.
The problem is that Trump's team crying "fraud" get to court and when under oath suddenly change their tune. Trump said in the summer that he would blow this false horn if he lost but when there is a risk of perjury, they all clam-up. The more I watch this, the more I think it is another Trump grift to gain personal wealth, this time in the form of campaign contributions. He claims it is for fighting fraud but is not using it in that capacity. Kind of like his fake universities and cancer charities that illegally went into his pockets instead.
What bothers me the most is that I was a left leaning republican at one time that can see phonies. I can admit what a fraud this guy is while some dig their heels in and keep doubling down regadless of the mounting evidence proving what his motives are.
2600 bro wrote:
If Trump were truly God's chosen leader... he would've given us a Christmas miracle!
Trump waited until the 27th to sign the bill to keep the US government opened. He did not care xMas as on the 25th ... Melanie is at war with that date. He chose the 27th witch is National Fruitcake Day in the US. Trump is truly the Fruitcake leader. Make Fruitcakes Great Again!
george co wrote:
The problem is that Trump's team crying "fraud" get to court and when under oath suddenly change their tune.
The only election fraud being attempted is that by Trump. The entire attempt is around trying to shove illegally selected, partisan, Trump loving, Electors ONLY in certain "targeted" states to overturn the vote of the American people. Why only six states? And only ones that Trump lost, and where the vote gap is smallest? If fraud were so rampant then every single state should have illegally selected Trump Electors.
And then there is the small problem of all that other voting: Senate, House of Representatives, State offices, propositions ... etc. It all has to be done all over again with Trump goons standing over counting tables and telling the vote counters what to count and what to discard (real vote counting fraud).
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