Serious thread about election fraud

Yet you weird racist a$$ Trump lovers have dismissed this type of unfairness forever but all of a sudden there is a two tiered justice system because grab em by the pvssy got arrested.

Donald Trump was found by Colorado judges to be an insurrectionist, and found that he should be removed from Colorado ballots. While the USSC found that DJT should be put on the ballot, they did NOT overturn the ruling that DJT had committed insurrection. Why would you support such a slick Yankee? He is a talented con man. You can admit that he fooled you.

Real-life case of ballot stuffing. We don't know how many votes she illegally harvested, but probably fewer than 50 based on her method. She got a slap on the wrist 4 month home confinement. Her husband the candidate was an UNindicted co-conspirator. Republican.

apnews.com

An Iowa woman is sentenced in a ballot box stuffing scheme that supported husband's campaign

The wife of a northwestern Iowa county supervisor has been sentenced to four months in jail in a scheme to stuff the ballot box to support her husband’s unsuccessful campaign for Congress.

Link:apnews.com/article/iowa-ballot-box-stu...

Yeah, because when there is massive fraud, all of the good arguments are reserved for stump speeches and articles rather than legal proceedings. Has the Kraken been released yet? You happy about hitching your wagon tho the MyPillow guy’s star?

Dude you seriously have no idea what your talking about

Pretty sure Dominion and the Venezuelan government are framing all these Republicans.

Are you the Moms that permit your husband to sleep around during the birth of your child ?!?

Not necessary. Our own American Democrats have made fraud investigation a high crime.

Yep. Talk radio, podcasts, the mouth of DJT, and social media are where people provide evidence scrupulously and assess it soberly and logically.p

Not in a court of law.

(yes, I’m aware that legal proceedings too often involve distortions of truth. The point is where the overwhelming # of victories is — and it’s not on the side of the MyPillow guy or Rudy, and it doesn’t rely on your shadowy prospect of malicious prosecution, because the results are largely the same when Republicans bring lawsuits).

think of all the Republicans involved in election results and legal proceedings who confirm that there was no large scale fraud. Consider the possibility that the guy who ALWAYS says “I won or else it was rigged” just might be lying.

Do you also believe he wins all those golf tournaments?

The imperial murder machine has many strengths, but it also has weaknesses.
The globe-spanning power structure that is loosely centralized around Washington has invested in perception management more heavily than any other empire in history — that's what you're seeing with all the mass media propaganda, Silicon Valley algorithm manipulation, oligarch-funded think tanks, and mainstream culture manufacturing in New York and Hollywood. By using mass-scale psychological manipulation via the most sophisticated perception management system that has ever existed, the US-centralized empire is able to manufacture support for its agendas at home and abroad while dissuading the public from protest and revolution.
This is an immense strength, but it's also a weakness. Its so-called "soft power" narrative manipulation systems allow for an immense amount of control while still creating the illusion of freedom and democracy, thereby suppressing public desire to overthrow what would otherwise be perceived as a murderous and exploitative oppressor, but its heavy reliance on perception management means it can't afford to be seen in too negative a light without causing widespread distrust in its propaganda machine.
If too many people realize that their government is psychopathic and their news media and other indoctrination systems have been lying to them about it all their lives, the empire will lose the ability to propagandize them, because propaganda only works if you don't know it's happening to you. If too many people wake up from the propaganda matrix it won't have any effect any longer, and without their propaganda our rulers cannot rule, because that's the entire control system upon which their rule is premised.
The empire therefore needs to tread very carefully when public opinion starts to turn against it, and retreat whenever public trust in imperial institutions would be compromised too severely for the empire to continue on a given path. It simply cannot afford to wake the public up from the propaganda-induced coma it has spent generations lulling them into.
What this means is that the empire can be pressured into retreat simply by spreading enough awareness and sowing enough opposition to its depraved actions. If enough eyes open to the truth of what's happening in Gaza for example, there's no amount of geostrategic middle east agendas or Israel lobby funding that can outweigh the empire's existential need to prevent a mass-scale awakening from the mainstream imperial worldview and a transition into widespread revolutionary consciousness. The empire would necessarily need to step back before things reached that point, because its very existence depends on it.
The empire has been walking that line this entire time. Whenever you see it doing things like stepping back from invading Cuba or Syria or refraining from going as authoritarian as it could go on a given issue, it isn't because the empire suddenly evolved a conscience. It's because it hasn't yet succeeded in manufacturing public consent for such agendas, and imposing them before the public has been manipulated into accepting them would snap them out of the matrix of psychological control. They work so hard to manufacture public consent because they absolutely need it.
So the empire can be pressured on Gaza and on every other issue if enough people put enough energy into spreading awareness of the truth. That's why the empire managers are freaking out about this new protest movement right now; they understand the absolutely fundamental role that narrative control plays in the existence of imperial power structures, and how much they stand to lose if it is taken away.
And hopefully it will be. Hopefully one day, maybe even soon, we will see people begin unplugging their brains from the matrix of imperial mind control at so widespread a scale that no amount of retreating and backpedaling can save the empire from the people collectively deciding they'll have none of its murderous tyranny anymore. From there it will lose its allies and assets abroad, it will succumb to revolutionary sentiments at home, and the people can start working toward building a healthy world together.

Caitlin Johnston twitter

So even Dinesh D’Souza’s executive producer dismisses “2000 Mules”:

“Dinesh D’Souza’s movie that sought to prove former President Donald Trump’sfantasy that the 2020 election was stolen from him by widespread fraud has been debunked time and time again. Now, years after its release, its executive producer is retracting the film entirely.”

Philip Nieto, Mediaite.

Apparently the facts don’t care about Mr. D’Souza’s feelings.

Democrats call Republican efforts at maintaining election integrity - in other words, preventing Democrats from cheating - "election fraud".

What an intelligent, well-informed, and nuanced take.

reminder 1 there was a stop the steal set up in 2016 which got folded because he won. this is not organic, it's heads i win, tails you lose. if the man loses, he spends part of his campaign prepping his voters by claiming theft before anything happens. he then activates some organization he set up in case he lost.

reminder 2 stone was associated with stop the steal both times 2016 and 2020, and stone was convicted, sentenced to jail, then trump commuted his sentence right before it happened. there is a set of figures trump works with, manafort, stone, etc., who have a shop together. manafort also went to jail. that shop over time has been linked with things like the "brooks brothers riot" that halted a florida recount, gary hart's photographed fling on a boat, and other campaign shenanigans. when a shop does shady stuff i assume the next thing they do is in the shade eg stop the steal.

presidential campaigns routinely go to court over election beefs, state by state. what has happened now is those lawsuits are assumed by partisan hacks to be what decides elections. and they are taken as true even if proven false in court. stone and co. have basically weaponized the lawsuits, ineffective or not, as a substitute for proof something happened. but when you go 0-for-61 there was no reality to what you were saying.

you want my 2 cents, when you can't convince a court of a thing you say, or the more reasonable secretaries of state in charge of state elections, that there is some "theft of the election" going on

--you're the real thief. the man is real good at accusing his opponent of things he's doing. (eg, hillary emails when his family used private email)

in short, the man tried to sue, prod election officials, twist congressional arms, create false rogue elector slates, and when all that failed sent the mob into the capitol.

there is an interesting thought experiment of how close the house votes on confirming electors would have been if he hadn't unleashed the mob. the man is very good at being so loud and hyperaggressive he steps on his own shoelaces.