rekrunner wrote:
The differences were not ethical differences.
You are moving the goalposts again. You wrote:
rekrunner wrote:
If it is indeed "very different" as you say -- why is no one able to articulate what the differences are?
Just a quick selection to prove that you were wrong in pretending that nobody could point out the differences - unethical or ethical or otherwise:
blame game wrote:
There is certainly a huge stigma surrounding Thyroid Meds.
casual obsever wrote:
Meds are for sick people, not for athletes who want to lose body fat.
Basically these athletes are picking a corrupt doctor to get diagnosed with hypothyroidism so that they can get hormone treatment.
asfafasf wrote:
It is unethical because it was supposedly performance enhancing, when it just messes up a healthy person's natural thyroid function.
asfafasf wrote:
Doctor Brown is regarded as a quack on this message board is he not? I agree with this. And his treatment of runners is unethical because he was messing up their endocrine system by diagnosing them all as hypothyroid and giving them injections.
casual obsever wrote:
They did more than just "take a substance that is not banned"; they went out of their way to fly to a special corrupt doctor (who got later banned for tampering, among other anti-doping rule violations) to get hormone treatment, despite being healthy, just to be able to run faster.
thyroid injections ... wrote:
Thyroid injections lower body more quickly than any banned diet pill supplement.
casual obsever wrote:
10 : 1 (Italy, 2017). That's why I wrote "to get hormone treatment, despite being healthy, just to be able to run faster", which I consider unethical, even if WADA - unlike the banned duo Brown and Salazar - currently thinks it does not help.
Needles McDoperface wrote:
IDK, would you need to seek out a sketchy coach to hook you up with a shady doctor to help find a loophole in interpreting test values to get a prescription for Red Bull?
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If you need some backchannel through a dishonest doctor to get the "allowable" substance, it's taking a shortcut not available to others.
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These doctors don't care about the unethical level of harm they're allowing these patients, they only clamor for the status of associating with and aiding and abetting high level athletes.
winner winner wrote:
Most athletes do not fly to see a doctor! WTF are you talking about!
Taking thyroid hormone is obviously an awesome performance enhancing drug. Just be a it’s not currently banned does not mean it works great.
But seeing that you neither view Salazar's or Brown's transgressions as unethical, for which they even got banned from the sport, this is another pointless "discussion".