How is Sweden doing with COVID-19 today?

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facts and reason wrote:

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Lead Foil Hat wrote:

Only cases, about 1000-2000 cases per day, but they have been between 0-3 deaths per day since the beginning of September; meaning the death to case ration has m=plummeted to about 0.05%

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Lead Foil wins the debate.

Roy lost the debate.

https://news.theceomagazine.com/lifestyle/health/sweden-no-face-masks
Does this look like a "pandemic" to you? Sweden has a lower death rate than America, and they have no mask mandate.

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You losers can stay in The Cave

I will join Harambe et al on the surface enjoying the true form of the universe.

This is a reference to Platos allegory of The Cave - look it up LFH!

Taiwan: Seven total deaths with a population of 23M; mask use 40-50%
https://covid19.healthdata.org/taiwan-(province-of-china)?view=mask-use&tab=trend

Deaths per capita in September 2020 were the lowest ever in Swedish history. Never before have so few died in Sweden in a single month so far back there are statistics, regardless of the month of the year.

Sorry fear mongers- you're lockdowns are creating misery and killing millions all across the planet. You are without question some of the most deranged and insipid people on the planet.

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facts and reason wrote:

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Harambe wrote:
Tegnell says Sweden is "at a critical point"

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"Critical" does not necessarily mean death wave.

"New COVID-19 deaths remain low and Sweden's official death toll had decreased by 15 cases since Friday, taking the total to 5,918 deaths. No explanation was given for the lowered figure but the count has previously been changed after the actual cause of death had been determined to be unrelated to the disease in a small number of cases."

Roy lost the debate, and I wouldn't hire him as a lawyer if this is the type of "argument" he brings to the table.

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sweden is doomed wrote:

Holy crap. Haven't seen this! Thanks for sharing. ICU s 4x capacity.

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Right you are , Taiwan is THE best , and usually overlooked.
Sweden has failed miserably and is deteriorating . Economy no better than the other Nordics , but a terrible death rate , and increasing positives and ICU use.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1113834/cumulative-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-nordics/
OTOH , the best pole-vaulter in the world jumps for Sweden. Go Mondo!

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LOTM677 wrote:
Economy no better than the other Nordics

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*Danes not Denmarks.

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facts and reason wrote:

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LOTM677 wrote:
Economy no better than the other Nordics

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Lotm posted a link that shows Denmark having fewer deaths.

Guess what? Most Denmarks don't wear masks.

"Denmark's health authority has discouraged mask wearing for healthy people going about their normal lives, questioning its effectiveness and saying it 'can cause more harm than good.'"

So you fail both with Sweden and its "Nordic" neighbor.

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Harambe wrote:

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facts and reason wrote:

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LOTM677 wrote:
Economy no better than the other Nordics

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Lotm posted a link that shows Denmark having fewer deaths.

Guess what? Most Denmarks don't wear masks.

"Denmark's health authority has discouraged mask wearing for healthy people going about their normal lives, questioning its effectiveness and saying it 'can cause more harm than good.'"

So you fail both with Sweden and its "Nordic" neighbor.

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Denmark also had a harsh national lockdown and has already re-instated some measures with growing cases!

Not sure this is the point you want to run with. Unless you're saying extreme national lockdowns (more than USA had) are the way to go...

oopsie!!

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Harambe wrote:

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facts and reason wrote:

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LOTM677 wrote:
Economy no better than the other Nordics

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Lotm posted a link that shows Denmark having fewer deaths.

Guess what? Most Denmarks don't wear masks.

"Denmark's health authority has discouraged mask wearing for healthy people going about their normal lives, questioning its effectiveness and saying it 'can cause more harm than good.'"

So you fail both with Sweden and its "Nordic" neighbor.

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Denmark also had a harsh national lockdown and has already re-instated some measures with growing cases!

Not sure this is the point you want to run with. Unless you're saying extreme national lockdowns (more than USA had) are the way to go...

oopsie!!

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facts and reason wrote:

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LOTM677 wrote:
Economy no better than the other Nordics

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Lotm posted a link that shows Denmark having fewer deaths.

Guess what? Most Denmarks don't wear masks.

https://u.cubeupload.com/bobby76/denmark.png

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2020-opinion-coronavirus-global-face-mask-adoption
"Denmark's health authority has discouraged mask wearing for healthy people going about their normal lives, questioning its effectiveness and saying it 'can cause more harm than good.'"

So you fail both with Sweden and its "Nordic" neighbor.

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Lead Foil Hat wrote:

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Precious Roy wrote:

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joedirt wrote:
Over the past couple of weeks, they are doing better on a per capita basis than 45 other countries in terms of new cases per capita and better than 82 countries in terms of new deaths per capita. They are faring far better than the bulk of Europe.

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This is turning into a Get Smart bit. Sweden has conquered the virus by achieving herd immunity. (cases start rising) Would you believe that Sweden is doing great because cases aren't rising as fast as other countries. (cases start doubling every other week) Would you believe that on a per capita basis, they are still doing better than a hand picked bunch of countries that actually relaxed their COVID restrictions to levels that were much more liberal than Sweden.

Sweden is failing. The only difference between Sweden and other EU countries is timing. Outbreaks in Western Europe started earlier than the current outbreak in Sweden. The trajectory in Sweden is right on par with what is happening in the rest of Europe. Sweden went from a 7 day moving average of just over 150 in early September to over 1,000 this week. Hospitalizations are rising. Restrictions are coming too slowly and are too weak.

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Everything you have said is a lie; typical Precious. Fearmongering again I see. Deaths per day have been flat at 0-3 trending towards zero for 2 months now. You lose, Sweden wins....ther is no spin you can put on the ball to change that reality. Although, it does seems like you real really want more Swedes to die, which is sick.

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And the Danes went from lockdown in late March to widespread opening in early June, instead of the chronic extension of lockdown seen in Anglophone countries:
https://covid19.healthdata.org/denmark?view=social-distancing&tab=trend
So they actually carried through on temporal limiting lockdown instead of the bait-and-switch of social control. Very much different than the Newsome/Cuomo/Biden authoritarian ignorance.

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sweden is doomed wrote:

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Harambe wrote:

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facts and reason wrote:

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Lead Foil Hat wrote:

Only cases, about 1000-2000 cases per day, but they have been between 0-3 deaths per day since the beginning of September; meaning the death to case ration has m=plummeted to about 0.05%

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Lead Foil wins the debate.

Roy lost the debate.

Does this look like a "pandemic" to you? Sweden has a lower death rate than America, and they have no mask mandate.

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Sweden ICU capacity now 4x the baseline before the peak, and climbing.

It's the same as everywhere
cases -> hospitalizations -> death

Even the hero Tegnell says Sweden is "at a critical point"
https://www.thelocal.se/20201027/sweden-nears-critical-point-as-coronavirus-cases-surge

Are you gonna tell this dude it's no big deal -- call him up and say he lost the debate? lol

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Holy crap. Haven't seen this! Thanks for sharing. ICU s 4x capacity.

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Other guy wrote:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Look at the daily deaths for the past three months in this nation of 10 million plus.

They are doing great.

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Precious Roy wrote:

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Other guy wrote:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

Look at the daily deaths for the past three months in this nation of 10 million plus.

They are doing great.

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That is what everyone was saying in Texas in early June. Then 15,000 people died. Deaths are a lagging (oh, never mind).

The outbreak in Sweden is very quickly catching up in severity to the rest of Europe. Last two days saw 2,400 and 2,800 new cases a day. I actually did not expect it to accelerate so quickly in Sweden as they do have good public health infrastructure. And it is still early in this outbreak compared to countries like Spain and the UK which saw their outbreaks start late in August. Without very strong measures, Sweden will be in a lot of trouble in the next few weeks. If you are looking at Sweden as an example of a COVID 19 success story, you are completely delusional at this point.

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