stan the corgi wrote:
IMO it's mutation due to global warming. We are living in a period of evolutionary change. It's not going away.
Much like how climate change has always existed. Isn't evolutionary change always occurring?
stan the corgi wrote:
IMO it's mutation due to global warming. We are living in a period of evolutionary change. It's not going away.
Much like how climate change has always existed. Isn't evolutionary change always occurring?
Stronger selection pressures can lead to more rapid phenotypic change. Usually the assumption is that base mutation rate doesn't change, but there are "stress responses" in bacteria and viruses that lead to more error-prone replication and "faster evolution."
Runner10287 wrote:
stan the corgi wrote:
IMO it's mutation due to global warming. We are living in a period of evolutionary change. It's not going away.
Much like how climate change has always existed. Isn't evolutionary change always occurring?
“Global pandemic..”. Seriously? Do you ever think about the meaning of words?
And everyone should know by now that the virus arrived on a “meteor“ from deep space that was targeted for earth by an alien race.
Precious Roy wrote:
There have been a number of instances of a COVID 19-like pneumonia in various parts of China since the SARS outbreak that were related to bats. Chinese miners clearing out bats and bat poo came down with a COVID 19 like pneumonia back in 2012. A similar outbreak was found in a rural Chinese community that appeared to be tied to the seasonal wild mushroom harvest. The mushrooms were often covered in bat poo.
The Chinese have a difficult cultural, environmental and economic relationship with bats. Eating bats is fairly rare "delicacy" in China. But bat guano's use in Chinese traditional medicine is much more common and widespread. There are lots of Chinese people in caves harvesting bat guano even after the outbreak. Also, both rural and urban development in China have been butting up against large bat colonies. Deforestation for agriculture and urbanization in China are also putting people and bats too close for comfort.
So, the Chinese would like to have the narrative out of the COVID 19 outbreak be that it was the result of one market selling bats or Pangolins for consumption by a very small portion of the Chinese population. That is an easy fix for the Chinese. But if the COVID 19 outbreak was the result of bat guano harvesting or the encroachment of people on bat ecosystems, the fix for that is very, very difficult. It would be akin to getting Americans to give up hamburgers to help fight global warming. Chinese medicine has been around for 10,000 years and is still very popular. And development patterns in China are not going to be able to take into account encroachment on wild bat ecosystems without great expense. China does not want to have to confront either narrative and is probably putting their finger on the scale in the published research to try to steer the debate away from much more difficult issues.
It is amazing things haven't gone to "shít" earlier.
Disgruntled Chinese lab worker got laid off and unleashed it on the world.
2600 bro wrote:
Stronger selection pressures can lead to more rapid phenotypic change.
Usually the assumption is that base mutation rate doesn't change, but there are "stress responses" in bacteria and viruses that lead to more error-prone replication and "faster evolution."
Runner10287 wrote:
Much like how climate change has always existed. Isn't evolutionary change always occurring?
So, much like climate change, a non event?
In fact, it's a good thing.
When do we go back to ignoring coronaviruses?
rojo wrote:
We have a global pandemic raging about the globe and hardly anyone seems to really want to figure out how it originated?
That's because so far, no one's been able to find a covid19 virus.
dunes runner wrote:
rojo wrote:
We have a global pandemic raging about the globe and hardly anyone seems to really want to figure out how it originated?
That's because so far, no one's been able to find a covid19 virus.
Are you still trolling this line?
Dope Hardstrong wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
That's because so far, no one's been able to find a covid19 virus.
Are you still trolling this line?
Are you still in the cult?
dunes runner wrote:
rojo wrote:
We have a global pandemic raging about the globe and hardly anyone seems to really want to figure out how it originated?
That's because so far, no one's been able to find a covid19 virus.
Fact check verdict: false
"There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world"
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc-idUSKBN27633RIt's a fool's errand to try to figure out who is "patient zero." Pandemics happen. Always have and always will. The origins of many, such as the 1918 flu, are very murky.
A healthy diet, exercise, and getting vaccinated are all we can do to mitigate the severity. Cheers.
Asia. Don't give in to the liberal trolls here. They will come at you poop.slinging again and again.
rojo wrote:
We have a global pandemic raging about the globe
False.
In September 2020 Sweden just recorded the lowest mortality rate of any month in the history of the country since they have been keeping records.
We have a "casedemic" not an actual pandemic.
The bat cave theory has been floated for a while- a fellow named Jonathan Latham may have been the first to do so.
This is just more Western culture exotica looking to demonize other cultures- Ebola came from the savages eating monkeys don't you know.
There is nothing unusual about SARS-CoV2 (it has never been isolated and purified either they simply added computer generated modelling to the samples) and there was no aberrant epidemiological event.
There was a very short window where there was a mass death event in specific locations (definition of a pandemic is widespread) and even more specifically, mortally impacted only a specific age-group (80 plus in nursing homes) that was already holding on average 3 life-threatening conditions.
The above deaths, as you are going to be finding out moreso over the next few months, were caused by policy decisions that shortened the limited months left of these fragile elders. These were crimes- to consider it a medical event disguises the social crimes which were committed.
Another identifying trademark of a pandemic is that deaths cut across a wide swath of demographics. Decidedly NOT the case here. Only the frail elderly were victims. And even beyond that these were almost exclusively on the poor end of the socioeconomic ladder. Folks who were in homes that are poorly ventilated, poorly staffed, poorly nourished and so on.
In short in Madrid, Milan, NY/NJ, Toronto, Stockholm (at least they admitted it), London, Brussels, Montreal etc. the slow motion abattoirs that are nursing homes in those places were pushed to fast forward by governments and health agencies.
rekrunner wrote:
"There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world"
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Fact check verdict: false
Exactly. It's nice to see that you finally agree with me.
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As of today, no one has been able to isolate a covid19 virus from uncontaminated material.
The only virus that I've been able to find that's been isolated recently is this one.
Rojo you are an adult. Time to start acting like one
No dude.
Is your (running, right?) site here really this hard up for money that you need to not only allow and encourage obvious and overt conspiracy theorists to run wild but ALSO join in with stuff like this?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/asia/wuhan-water-park-party-intl-hnk/index.html2600 bro wrote:
Stronger selection pressures can lead to more rapid phenotypic change.
Does this look like a "pandemic" to you?
Wuhan has reopened a water park.
People have to stop fearmongering that COVID-19 is a scary killer on the streets.
facts and reason wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/18/asia/wuhan-water-park-party-intl-hnk/index.html2600 bro wrote:
Stronger selection pressures can lead to more rapid phenotypic change.
Does this look like a "pandemic" to you?
Wuhan has reopened a water park.
People have to stop fearmongering that COVID-19 is a scary killer on the streets.
We will only accept facts n science!
