Precious Roy is an obvious troll. Always has been; always will be. So is Portland Hobby Jogger. Both are likely the same person. I also think they're the same person as Flagpole.
Precious Roy is an obvious troll. Always has been; always will be. So is Portland Hobby Jogger. Both are likely the same person. I also think they're the same person as Flagpole.
only one choice wrote:
Fair Sex Foundation wrote:
LOL, why is it WRONG and SLANDER and an OUTRAGE to criticize institutions and those who work for them?
Why can't I be skeptical of the motives of FPU, Emerson and the NCAA all at once? All these institutions and people are supposed to be educators committed to promoting the development and wellbeing of the students in their charge.
Who are these "feminists" you speak of who are more deserving of criticism? Names please.
Nothing prevented FPU or Emerson from questioning the NCAA's daft, vague, unfair to females policy.
You say you
give Coach Emerson a ton of credit. This situation did not make his life easier, he became the villain in a lot of people's eyes. He likely did not get a raise for the athlete's success and it likely didn't even help his recruiting. It was a big distraction that probably affected everyone else on his team negatively. But he stuck by his athlete and fulfilled his responsibility as a coach with HONOR. If you can't respect that, the GTF off this site.
There's no indication that Coach Emerson consulted a single female person or considered any female person or athlete during this saga. He seemed to be single-mindedly focused on Telfer achieving success and glory in women's track and field. As you say, "he stuck by his athlete" - yeah, he stuck by his male athlete who was using "gender identity" to horn in on women's sports and trounce female athletes.
he stuck by his athlete and fulfilled his responsibility as a coach with HONOR. If you can't respect that, the GTF off this site.
What the hell do you know about HONOR? Who the hell are you to tell me to GTF off this site? You dictating from on high who is allowed to speak sounds pretty male supremacist to me.
Perhaps you are Zach Emerson? And what on earth does your claim that
I am a die hard Trump supporter
have to do with this issue?
There it is, a sexism accusation exactly as I predicted earlier. It's wrong to criticize FPU and the coach because the NCAA literally passed a transgender policy to allow it. They were facing NCAA sanctions if they didn't let the athlete compete. They also would have faced a bombardment of lawsuits and harassment from the ACLU and other organizations that fight for transgender rights. It would have been a massive legal and PR nightmare if they didn't let the athlete compete.
Coach Emerson has more integrity in his little finger than you have in your entire body. You accused him of taking advantage of a transgender athlete to build his own career. Where is your evidence for that? He said he was proud of the athlete in a news article, is that your only proof? Oh man, he must be EVIL, how dare a coach be proud of his athlete!
In all respects, Coach Emerson's career has been hurt by this instance. He had a successful team before this athlete. His men's XC team qualified for nationals numerous times. He's had plenty of All-American athletes on the men's and women's team. Now many of his coaching peers shun him. He gets insulted online. It's hurt his recruiting. Despite all those negative consequences he fulfilled his responsibility as a coach with HONOR in the face of constant abuse and harassment.
To a coach, your athletes are your children. If you had a 22 year old son that wanted to change genders would you disown him?
Coach Emerson is clearly a man of outstanding honor and integrity. You're a person who enjoys slandering someone by name, anonymously, online with no evidence supporting your accusation. Yeah, you're real honorable.
If forced into a position of facilitating mental illness and condoning cheating, albeit through no fault of your own, what is the honorable choice? I would have resigned. Coach Emerson, in my opinion, took the easy route and went against all principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Telfer placed him in an untenable position, just as he did the actual women his presence on the track affected. However, the blame can't even really be placed on him. The through the looking glass mindset currently in vogue in social justice circles is the actual culprit. Rest assured, the pendulum will swing the other way. Push too far left, and the return to the right will be of at least equal magnitude.
Viking21 wrote:
If forced into a position of facilitating mental illness and condoning cheating, albeit through no fault of your own, what is the honorable choice? I would have resigned. Coach Emerson, in my opinion, took the easy route and went against all principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Telfer placed him in an untenable position, just as he did the actual women his presence on the track affected. However, the blame can't even really be placed on him. The through the looking glass mindset currently in vogue in social justice circles is the actual culprit. Rest assured, the pendulum will swing the other way. Push too far left, and the return to the right will be of at least equal magnitude.
So you want him to leave his job of 10 years just because someone on his team becomes transgender? He's got 5 kids, do you want them to go hungry because someone on daddy's team goes transgender? He founded that team and built it from nothing into something really good. He had the #3 ranked men's 800 runner in the country this indoor season.
I cannot emphasize this enough, it's the NCAA's fault and the fault of liberal activists.
only one choice wrote:
Viking21 wrote:
If forced into a position of facilitating mental illness and condoning cheating, albeit through no fault of your own, what is the honorable choice? I would have resigned. Coach Emerson, in my opinion, took the easy route and went against all principles of sportsmanship and fair play. Telfer placed him in an untenable position, just as he did the actual women his presence on the track affected. However, the blame can't even really be placed on him. The through the looking glass mindset currently in vogue in social justice circles is the actual culprit. Rest assured, the pendulum will swing the other way. Push too far left, and the return to the right will be of at least equal magnitude.
So you want him to leave his job of 10 years just because someone on his team becomes transgender? He's got 5 kids, do you want them to go hungry because someone on daddy's team goes transgender? He founded that team and built it from nothing into something really good. He had the #3 ranked men's 800 runner in the country this indoor season.
I cannot emphasize this enough, it's the NCAA's fault and the fault of liberal activists.
I understand why he made the choice he did. Sometimes, life forces you to make unpleasant choices. He was truly placed into a no win situation. That does not change the fact that he facilitated unfair and unsportsmanlike conduct. I would have resigned. My own sense of integrity would have demanded it.
long story short wrote:
Vote Trump if you want your biological daughters to have opportunities in sport. I dont think we need a department of education but if do stopping these kinds of shenanigans is a good use.
This person competed and won titles during the Trump administration you dummy. Trump wasn’t the one that put a stop to it.
In fact the woman responsible for stopping it is a democrat.
You really aren’t very bright are you?
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/10/15/joe-biden-eliminate-trump-sex-gender-policiesInsecure wrote:
Trump wasn’t the one that put a stop to it.
"Since 2017, Trump has used his power of the presidency to reject the pro-transgender rules set by President Barack Obama.
Trump’s executive order bars the Pentagon from ordering soldiers to pretend that an intact man is a woman and allows officials in federally-funded homeless shelters to let abused and homeless women use different bedrooms and bathrooms than homeless men. Trump’s policies also help girls sue to keep boys out of their sports and allow states to recognize the two different and complementary sexes in their K-12 schools."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRM7zQk8xJg&t=24sViking21 wrote:
only one choice wrote:
So you want him to leave his job of 10 years just because someone on his team becomes transgender? He's got 5 kids, do you want them to go hungry because someone on daddy's team goes transgender? He founded that team and built it from nothing into something really good. He had the #3 ranked men's 800 runner in the country this indoor season.
I cannot emphasize this enough, it's the NCAA's fault and the fault of liberal activists.
I understand why he made the choice he did. Sometimes, life forces you to make unpleasant choices. He was truly placed into a no win situation. That does not change the fact that he facilitated unfair and unsportsmanlike conduct. I would have resigned. My own sense of integrity would have demanded it.
So the coach resigns and they hire another coach that lets HIM compete against women and it's the same result except the former coach is broke and his 5 young children are homeless and starving to death. There was no stopping the athlete from competing. And if the coach resigns he might not get another coaching job.
Would you resign if your employer made you go through diversity training? Would you resign if your employer hired a transgender person? Would you disown your adult child if he became transgender?
only one choice wrote:
Viking21 wrote:
I understand why he made the choice he did. Sometimes, life forces you to make unpleasant choices. He was truly placed into a no win situation. That does not change the fact that he facilitated unfair and unsportsmanlike conduct. I would have resigned. My own sense of integrity would have demanded it.
So the coach resigns and they hire another coach that lets HIM compete against women and it's the same result except the former coach is broke and his 5 young children are homeless and starving to death. There was no stopping the athlete from competing. And if the coach resigns he might not get another coaching job.
Would you resign if your employer made you go through diversity training? Would you resign if your employer hired a transgender person? Would you disown your adult child if he became transgender?
You seem to be operating under the assumption that I have a problem with transgender individuals per se. I do not. I do, however, have a big problem with allowing a biological male to make a mockery of women's sports. If my adult child were to do such a thing, I would do everything in my power to prevent it. If I were placed in the exact same situation as this coach, I would hope that my five young children would understand that sometimes you must do the right thing and face the consequences.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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