Anyone from Northern CA?

I live in SF itself and for a major city, you can beat this town for places to run. I coached HS for years here and had very few injury problems. I'm convinced it was superb terrain and nothing I did as coach.

M&M - Nice run Sunday, I would have cheered more for you, but you were busy battling my team mates. My last competitive running picture was at 30K last spring in Boston, after having just passed you. Seems that was my highlight and your starting point. I retired this fall, and after seeign you run C'Burg and CIM wonder if I made the right choice!

Cheers,

Brian Richter

Why did you retire? Injuries? You said you have been fairly injury free. Lose your desire? I see your only 32. Give me the scoop. I am 29 am I going to have to "retire" in 3 years? ha. No you made the wrong choice, ha. But when you come back you have to run for WVTC, ha. I was surrounded by your guys on Sunday. I got 2 out of the three though and my training partner got all three, ha. That course was MUCH faster than previous years, no question. If only the mile markers would been right it would have been even better.

Miles-

Yes, the move is still in the works. In fact I was down there last weekend but too tired from moving boxes to run the race. Waiting on a job. Also waiting to feel like I can run again. The different training I did last fall and summer really messed me up.

OK Miles just what are those selfish reasons you refer to?

I live in Moraga in the East Bay. Very family oriented small town with good access to trails.

Miles - Does WVTC have any guys out my way in the East Bay? I'm thinking of joining one of the clubs when I'm in better shape. Like you I'm a former 400/800 guy. I'm in my late 30s with a couple of kids and hoping to get down to the mid-16s/34s for 5K/10K by the summer.

John

i too am from that land known as "norcal"

We have people in Oakland I know of for sure. Drop me an e-mail and we will talk. Don't worry about shape, they can help you get there. Even in bad shape you can probably still help out the team right now.

I call Norcal my home...Chico specifically...

SC,

Your in No. Cal? I thought your name meant South Caralina or something, ha.

Was in Davis. Ill take my snow over 115 anyday.

Damn could have REALLY used you Hinderloppet. Did you see our team? We had 4 pretty good runners (I say that because I was 4th, ha) and Tony who is out of shape for him. Hopefully we can have some people step in, I am not going to be able to do at least the next three PA races because of the marathon.

115 has never stopped me from training. I think -15 would, ha. I hate treadmills too, no need for them here.

ah yes, the "captain" lurks these boards as well! hope you're enjoying colorado and the snow, its 70 today here in davis and should be around 80 by the end of the week.

anyways, someone above mentioned stanford this weekend, we're sending a crew from uc davis to hopefully qualify guys to nationals: 5K, 10K, and a slew of steeple guys.

Hi M&M-

Being in Vacaville I also experience quite a few 100 plus degree days, but along with the heat comes really crappy air quality. That's when I find I need a treadmill. Does the smog affect your workouts? What do you do when the temps are high and the air is chunky?

Hey JAK, I still got 67 miles in last week in 4 feet of snow. Running in snow is fun and it builds character. And as I still check the Davis weather on occasion I happened to notice that Boulder was warmer than Davis for all of the two weeks prior to our blizzard.

And just to clarify, this and my other post on THIS board are in no way talking shit about you guys, Im just mentioning what I thought of Davis as a place. I apologized and confessed to the shit I talked on wickedawesome, and that was sincere. So dont go trying to blow this out of proportion to make me look bad, like you did with my comparison of Boulder as a town to Davis as a town. Neither of these mentioned anyone on the team at all, let alone in a negative way. Good luck to all ags at Stanford.

Now, Now,

Careful who you call JAK that is a serious charge you are leveling. Are you sure "JAK" is "aggie"?

It's nice to see WVTC on this board. A man by the name of Poore is a hit for you guys. And Khalid too.

I am an AG through and through, was a year ago and now am one too. Davis is basically a great place to train, because you find out that you really really love running here. It is hard as hell to run on a levee every day, and you realize you do it because you want to get better not commune with nature. I always want to send in a letter and picture to Runners World. I would take a picture of the levees and the IM Fields and say, "here's a rave run!" The other great thing about elevation of 56 ft. is that you have to run really hard to get your HR up...

see ya'll at the "X" known as Stanford

"I work 45 hpw. I have 2 kids and a wife. I was my daughter's soccer coach. I cook dinner every other night. I go to my kids functions. I play with my kids, read bed time stories, etc, etc. I find a way to get up to 140 mpw training. I ran 2:22 on Sunday. It can't be done. Depends on your commitment level, I guess. Some have that lives that get in the way, others use it as an excuse (I am NOT saying that is what you are doing). I get up early and I don't have that much TV time, but I get it all done."

- Miles & Miles (12/12/2002..."Why we're all not running 2:22" thread on Letsrun)

For someone who talks of how much commitment it takes to run 2:22 while working 45+ hours a week, you sure seem to have plenty of time on your hands everyday to post multiple messages. Sure wish I had a job that allowed me to surf message boards, start threads, and post 8 replies on just one thread alone all over the span of 5 hours...yep, that's one tough job.

Boy, you also must have a lot of time on your hands in order to dig up a post from December just to give M&M a bad time. Do you really care what he does during the day? There are certainly many more posters who spend MUCH more time on this board than he.

Keep searching you will find one, ha. Yep I post from work, sue me.

Runnerbabe, I have to do my workouts at 4:00 or 4:30 everyday even when it is 115 and the air is bad. I just survive. I adapt and don't let it get to me. Your in Vacaville? Did you go to high school there? I am asking because my brother in-law did at Will C. Wood.