Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone in killing JFK?

fisky wrote:

One person, I'd take with a huge grain of salt, but when several come forward with "the truth" I'm more inclined to believe them than the Warren Commission.

Yes, groups are always correct

I used to visit a running page and see great news items and forum discussions about my favorite sport. Now this and other political and off topic stuff has invaded. Makes the top 10 forum discussions all the time. Brings me away from my break to look at running sports and back into the muck and divisiveness. Let's argue about training approaches or which runner is the 3rd GOAT of all time in the hour run for distance, but enough of this. I visit less and less and not just because it's an off year. Why soil a great running site with such off topic drivel?! (And yes, Johnsons, I am speaking to you as well for sometimes seeding such conversations here).

"Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone in killing JFK?"

Is it even possible for Lee Harvey Oswald to act alone in killing JFK?

Can the exact shots with a similar weapon be duplicated by a just a decent shooter? or even by an elite sniper?

Lee Harvey was no sniper. maybe slighlty above average shooter at best .

So that's the 1st test.

Second, the killer gets shot before he can testify not by some random JFK fan but a known individual with connection to the mobs....... How convenient. ....

But yeah , sure .... this simple man was able to work with the russians and the cubans two big red countries at a time where the US government treated communism like it was covid-19.

But somehow all by himself he was able to defeat the CIA and plan the assination of the US president.

Yeah .... Ok, and the earh is flat too!

It was the Chicago mob. If it was the government they would have whacked him off camera.

johnny5 wrote:

It was the Chicago mob. If it was the government they would have whacked him off camera.

That is to say the Goverment would have whacked Oswald off camera, as opposed to having a cheap hood do it.

kiowavt wrote:

I used to visit a running page and see great news items and forum discussions about my favorite sport. Now this and other political and off topic stuff has invaded. Makes the top 10 forum discussions all the time. Brings me away from my break to look at running sports and back into the muck and divisiveness. Let's argue about training approaches or which runner is the 3rd GOAT of all time in the hour run for distance, but enough of this. I visit less and less and not just because it's an off year. Why soil a great running site with such off topic drivel?! (And yes, Johnsons, I am speaking to you as well for sometimes seeding such conversations here).

LOL the message board has been this way since I started visiting in 2004.

If you think this thread is "off topic," did you know the top 3 threads of all time are about Donald Trump, the stock market, and a guy whose wife stopped having sex with him?

Go to Spotify and listen to the six-part series on Lee Harvey Oswalk/JFK Assassination by the guys at Last Podcast On The Left (Episodes 400-405). The first three episodes focus on Oswald, the fourth about the assassination itself, and the last two start to go into the deep dive of conspiracy theories involving the CIA, other shooters, and loads of other stuff. They reference the JFK movie quite a bit and point out how it does/doesn't match up with actuality.

updated facts: wrote:

Some say the conspiracy was too big to be kept secret. 125 is considered the upper limit for number of conspirators to keep a conspiracy silent for 100 years.

Why 125? There are more than 20,000 CIA employees and most of their secrets are still secret.

So glad you brought this up. We can FINALLY figure this question out, after all these decades of discussion. Right here on letsrun. Brilliant.

johnny5 wrote:

johnny5 wrote:

...they would have whacked him off...

That is to say the Goverment would have whacked Oswald off....

Ew. Anyway, the simplest explanation was that Oswald was a nut and was either more talented or lucky with a rifle than anyone thought.

Bad Wigins wrote:

updated facts: wrote:

Some say the conspiracy was too big to be kept secret. 125 is considered the upper limit for number of conspirators to keep a conspiracy silent for 100 years.

Why 125? There are more than 20,000 CIA employees and most of their secrets are still secret.

A few weeks ago a read a random math probability study. As you may know, C.I.A. or the previous O.S.S. rarely did killings. It was the job of O.S.S. or C.I.A. to recruit individuals to kill. I do not see why more than (125 to 250) would need to know. C.l.A. certainly would have had to involve some outside of the Agency though. We are not talking the planning of D-Day Invasion, so no need for too many to have been involved.

updated facts: wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Why 125? There are more than 20,000 CIA employees and most of their secrets are still secret.

A few weeks ago a read a random math probability study. As you may know, C.I.A. or the previous O.S.S. rarely did killings. It was the job of O.S.S. or C.I.A. to recruit individuals to kill. I do not see why more than (125 to 250) would need to know. C.l.A. certainly would have had to involve some outside of the Agency though. We are not talking the planning of D-Day Invasion, so no need for too many to have been involved.

It seems unlikely that it would have been a CIA sanctioned job. If the CIA was involved in any way it’s more likely that there were rogue individuals and/or individuals who had been terminated by the CIA.

Also, conspiracy related to the assassination doesn’t necessarily mean that any government agencies or players were involved in the actual assassination itself. It’s possible that there was a conspiracy related to the investigation. Lee Harvey Oswald was being monitored by the FBI following his return from the Soviet Union and it’s possible that there was a coverup in regards to the intelligence community letting him slip through the cracks. Some files on Oswald were even destroyed in the immediate aftermath of the assassination.

JFK set him up.

That's how much he hated Jackie. He's like hmmm, just publish the route, I'll make sure to have my head sitting out here in a convertible, surely there's some cold war whacko that will have the b@lls to take me out.

I suspect the doubters are unconvinced that he killed Officer Tippit alone as well.

True that. And honestly these threads usually better than the actual running related threads. Which are mostly the same losers pretending to know everything regarding training or crying about dopers.

There was no conclusive evidence that Oswald shot Officer Tippet.

The gun found on Oswald at his arrest did not match the cartridges found next to Tippit's body.

Here's what I think (along with the millions of other opinions):

LBJ ordered the hit on JFK. It was well known that he despised Kennedy and wanted to be president.

LBJ had lots of cronies in Dallas to do the job and then cover it up.

One puzzling question: how did Governor Connelly know to duck at the exact moment the car passed through the killing zone?

Oswald was a patsy.

kw1954 wrote:

There was no conclusive evidence that Oswald shot Officer Tippet.

Couldn't make it past this lunacy.

This is pretty interesting

https://jfkfacts.org/top-6-jfk-files-the-cia-still-keeps-secret/

A gun-enthusiast magazine looked at the rifle and what kind of skill it would take to do the shooting. Good analysis.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/lee-harvey-oswalds-carcano-rifle-shooting-it-today/