The Wizard JS wrote:
There is absolutely no super hard sessions in the DANCAN system!
Sure that's how Kipchoge trains. Or Bekele. Or the Ingebrigtsens. Coe? Ovett? Shaheen? El Guerrouj?
And this is why the DANCAN system is as much of a fraud as you.
The Wizard JS wrote:
There is absolutely no super hard sessions in the DANCAN system!
Sure that's how Kipchoge trains. Or Bekele. Or the Ingebrigtsens. Coe? Ovett? Shaheen? El Guerrouj?
And this is why the DANCAN system is as much of a fraud as you.
Whatever
highhoppingworm wrote:
This thread has completely devolved. Yikes.
Slava, hope you get well soon.
I am well. Enjoying cycling, little pick up aerobic base during this week while my injury cure it. Ok, will loose some leg power in running, of course, but I found today some interesting things...?
Canefis wrote:
highhoppingworm wrote:
This thread has completely devolved. Yikes.
Slava, hope you get well soon.
I am well. Enjoying cycling, little pick up aerobic base during this week while my injury cure it. Ok, will loose some leg power in running, of course, but I found today some interesting things...?
What interesting things?
ek87o78o78o wrote:
The Wizard JS wrote:
There is absolutely no super hard sessions in the DANCAN system!
Sure that's how Kipchoge trains. Or Bekele. Or the Ingebrigtsens. Coe? Ovett? Shaheen? El Guerrouj?
And this is why the DANCAN system is as much of a fraud as you.
In fact Kipchoge`s training system ( his coach Patrick Sang) reminds of the DANCAN system.
But it of course differs at some points. The way we handle the long specific run differs.
The volume of mileage differs. The way we handle the rest between interval reps differ.
Among what is equal is precisely that we never use any "super hard sessions", only perfect calibrated up to the runners capacity and shape for the day.
The Wizard JS wrote:
ek87o78o78o wrote:
Sure that's how Kipchoge trains. Or Bekele. Or the Ingebrigtsens. Coe? Ovett? Shaheen? El Guerrouj?
And this is why the DANCAN system is as much of a fraud as you.
In fact Kipchoge`s training system ( his coach Patrick Sang) reminds of the DANCAN system.
But it of course differs at some points. The way we handle the long specific run differs.
The volume of mileage differs. The way we handle the rest between interval reps differ.
Among what is equal is precisely that we never use any "super hard sessions", only perfect calibrated up to the runners capacity and shape for the day.
You ruined Phil's chances at the marathon through your low mileage approach and lack of proper long runs.
And yet you insist on low mileage.
Have you seen the type of long runs Renato has his athletes doing?
Even Shaheen?
But no, Jan Stensson is magic so he doesn't need to change anything.
- Magic fails! -
123 5 wrote:
The Wizard JS wrote:
In fact Kipchoge`s training system ( his coach Patrick Sang) reminds of the DANCAN system.
But it of course differs at some points. The way we handle the long specific run differs.
The volume of mileage differs. The way we handle the rest between interval reps differ.
Among what is equal is precisely that we never use any "super hard sessions", only perfect calibrated up to the runners capacity and shape for the day.
You ruined Phil's chances at the marathon through your low mileage approach and lack of proper long runs.
And yet you insist on low mileage.
Have you seen the type of long runs Renato has his athletes doing?
Even Shaheen?
But no, Jan Stensson is magic so he doesn't need to change anything.
- Magic fails! -
As I`ve told you before it`s very important to know history of world class training and different methods to become a world class coach yourself , and of course I know exactly how mr Canova`s specific long runs looks like.My specific long run is just in a djfferent way and at least as effective.Canova`s coaching record so far when it comes to marathon time a 2:03 and third place .......me a 2:07 and a win ! How long have we been coaching? Canova about 50 years....me 5 years! :) ( Maybe we will soon see a comment by mr Canova here. He has difficulty to resist an opportunity to persist in the superiority of his method and the only way of "proper training" , lol ) :)
The Wizard JS wrote:
123 5 wrote:
You ruined Phil's chances at the marathon through your low mileage approach and lack of proper long runs.
And yet you insist on low mileage.
Have you seen the type of long runs Renato has his athletes doing?
Even Shaheen?
But no, Jan Stensson is magic so he doesn't need to change anything.
- Magic fails! -
As I`ve told you before it`s very important to know history of world class training and different methods to become a world class coach yourself , and of course I know exactly how mr Canova`s specific long runs looks like.My specific long run is just in a djfferent way and at least as effective.Canova`s coaching record so far when it comes to marathon time a 2:03 and third place .......me a 2:07 and a win ! How long have we been coaching? Canova about 50 years....me 5 years! :) ( Maybe we will soon see a comment by mr Canova here. He has difficulty to resist an opportunity to persist in the superiority of his method and the only way of "proper training" , lol ) :)
Canova has replied to you when you wrote as John H.
You are comparing your marathon coaching with Renato's? Ridiculous.
You know what's sad? I remember you said somewhere that you have a son. One day your son will be a grown up and will want to find out more about his dad. He will google his name and find all these lies.
As a father myself, I find that extremely sad.
There's that and there's all the damage you are doing to all coaches.
The Wizard JS wrote:
123 5 wrote:
You ruined Phil's chances at the marathon through your low mileage approach and lack of proper long runs.
And yet you insist on low mileage.
Have you seen the type of long runs Renato has his athletes doing?
Even Shaheen?
But no, Jan Stensson is magic so he doesn't need to change anything.
- Magic fails! -
As I`ve told you before it`s very important to know history of world class training and different methods to become a world class coach yourself , and of course I know exactly how mr Canova`s specific long runs looks like.My specific long run is just in a djfferent way and at least as effective.Canova`s coaching record so far when it comes to marathon time a 2:03 and third place .......me a 2:07 and a win ! How long have we been coaching? Canova about 50 years....me 5 years! :) ( Maybe we will soon see a comment by mr Canova here. He has difficulty to resist an opportunity to persist in the superiority of his method and the only way of "proper training" , lol ) :)
I have a challenge for you but I will tell you tomorrow.
A fast amendment...... Canova`s fastest marathoner a 2:03 and second place, not third. Right shall be right :) Sorry for that printing error. :)
ek87o78o78o wrote:
The Wizard JS wrote:
As I`ve told you before it`s very important to know history of world class training and different methods to become a world class coach yourself , and of course I know exactly how mr Canova`s specific long runs looks like.My specific long run is just in a djfferent way and at least as effective.Canova`s coaching record so far when it comes to marathon time a 2:03 and third place .......me a 2:07 and a win ! How long have we been coaching? Canova about 50 years....me 5 years! :) ( Maybe we will soon see a comment by mr Canova here. He has difficulty to resist an opportunity to persist in the superiority of his method and the only way of "proper training" , lol ) :)
Canova has replied to you when you wrote as John H.
You are comparing your marathon coaching with Renato's? Ridiculous.
You know what's sad? I remember you said somewhere that you have a son. One day your son will be a grown up and will want to find out more about his dad. He will google his name and find all these lies.
As a father myself, I find that extremely sad.
There's that and there's all the damage you are doing to all coaches.
It was YOU , not me, that started to bring Canova to speech here and asked me if I have seen the type of long runs his athletes do.Stop your ridiculous talk about me would damage other coaches.
And as far as my son is concerned we are already very close and he knows his old man is honest.
I can`t get it why you keep on your "vendetta" here and repeatedly accuses me of being a liar???
Had I known who you were, I could have sued you for defamation!
The Wizard JS wrote:
ek87o78o78o wrote:
Canova has replied to you when you wrote as John H.
You are comparing your marathon coaching with Renato's? Ridiculous.
You know what's sad? I remember you said somewhere that you have a son. One day your son will be a grown up and will want to find out more about his dad. He will google his name and find all these lies.
As a father myself, I find that extremely sad.
There's that and there's all the damage you are doing to all coaches.
It was YOU , not me, that started to bring Canova to speech here and asked me if I have seen the type of long runs his athletes do.Stop your ridiculous talk about me would damage other coaches.
And as far as my son is concerned we are already very close and he knows his old man is honest.
I can`t get it why you keep on your "vendetta" here and repeatedly accuses me of being a liar???
Had I known who you were, I could have sued you for defamation!
Defamation?
How about I sued you for damaging my brother's coaching career? And every other online coach's career with your unproven claims, taking clients from them with your ridiculous magic results that never existed? Because people without much knowledge will believe you and you know that.
You know, if you sued (you would have to sue many other posters because contrary to what you think I am far from the only one saying you lie) you would have to prove everything you claim. And you can't.
Prove that Kamworor asked you to coach him. You can't. And someone posted here that they spoke to Kamworor and he never heard of you.
Prove that you coached that sprinter to times that no female in Kenya ran at the meeting you said they ran in. You can't, because it never happened.
I can prove that you are damaging the careers of other coaches.
Don't play with fire.
You are a good guy. I know that. But stop with your arrogant threats. And coach whoever you want, expand your business, whatever. But not based on lies. If you lie, expect people to be upset.
Oh and I didn't being Canova. You did, by naming your system after him. Correct?
The Wizard JS wrote:
ek87o78o78o wrote:
Canova has replied to you when you wrote as John H.
You are comparing your marathon coaching with Renato's? Ridiculous.
You know what's sad? I remember you said somewhere that you have a son. One day your son will be a grown up and will want to find out more about his dad. He will google his name and find all these lies.
As a father myself, I find that extremely sad.
There's that and there's all the damage you are doing to all coaches.
It was YOU , not me, that started to bring Canova to speech here and asked me if I have seen the type of long runs his athletes do.Stop your ridiculous talk about me would damage other coaches.
And as far as my son is concerned we are already very close and he knows his old man is honest.
I can`t get it why you keep on your "vendetta" here and repeatedly accuses me of being a liar???
Had I known who you were, I could have sued you for defamation!
And you want to know who I am? No problem. Expect an email soon.
I am done with you here.
Good luck Slava.
ek87o78o78o wrote:
The Wizard JS wrote:
It was YOU , not me, that started to bring Canova to speech here and asked me if I have seen the type of long runs his athletes do.Stop your ridiculous talk about me would damage other coaches.
And as far as my son is concerned we are already very close and he knows his old man is honest.
I can`t get it why you keep on your "vendetta" here and repeatedly accuses me of being a liar???
Had I known who you were, I could have sued you for defamation!
Defamation?
How about I sued you for damaging my brother's coaching career? And every other online coach's career with your unproven claims, taking clients from them with your ridiculous magic results that never existed? Because people without much knowledge will believe you and you know that.
You know, if you sued (you would have to sue many other posters because contrary to what you think I am far from the only one saying you lie) you would have to prove everything you claim. And you can't.
Prove that Kamworor asked you to coach him. You can't. And someone posted here that they spoke to Kamworor and he never heard of you.
Prove that you coached that sprinter to times that no female in Kenya ran at the meeting you said they ran in. You can't, because it never happened.
I can prove that you are damaging the careers of other coaches.
Don't play with fire.
You are a good guy. I know that. But stop with your arrogant threats. And coach whoever you want, expand your business, whatever. But not based on lies. If you lie, expect people to be upset.
Oh and I didn't being Canova. You did, by naming your system after him. Correct?
Interesting! )) Seems like we have a lot of to talk about and sort out(I have of course noticed that you aren`t an American native and probably have something to do with Kenya , or Italy? You sometimes have the same bad English grammar as myself, lol ). You have really made me curious now who this brother of yours being an online coach that I according to you would have damaged his coaching career??? And I just tell you the last thing for tonight.......I have saved my chat with Kamworor, Mengich, Kiprop and all the other elite runners I have coached during now five years. Everything I have told here during now five years is the truth and nothing but the truth. Now stand up like a real decent man and contact me at my email :
magic@coachjs.se.......and then your baseless accusations that I would be a liar at last can come to an end.
Corona time wrote:
Canefis wrote:
I am well. Enjoying cycling, little pick up aerobic base during this week while my injury cure it. Ok, will loose some leg power in running, of course, but I found today some interesting things...?
What interesting things?
Yeah, wouldn’t you like to know lol :)
The Wizard JS wrote:
umm, what? wrote:
I don't think the rest is too long, I KNOW IT IS.
The Reindell/Gershler method from the 1930s is very out of date. Like 60 years out of date.
You were doing 2 super hard sessions per week with easy runs in between. This is NOT endurance building. It has no connection with marathon training.
JS is a delusional fool. Ask any serious coach here. The man is a narcissistic nutcase.
You don`t get it! ))) I have used the Gerschler/Reindel interval method as a part of my system but I have fine-tuned it compared to the way they did it and made it even more effective!What are you really talking about! ? There is absolutely no super hard sessions in the DANCAN system! Only up to the runners capacity and individually perfect calibrated.
11/10
Corona time wrote:
Canefis wrote:
I am well. Enjoying cycling, little pick up aerobic base during this week while my injury cure it. Ok, will loose some leg power in running, of course, but I found today some interesting things...?
What interesting things?
The length of the arc of applied power to the pedals has increased, i.e. pedaling has become more circular
Canefis wrote:
Corona time wrote:
What interesting things?
The length of the arc of applied power to the pedals has increased, i.e. pedaling has become more circular
...A cyclist learns circular pedaling all his life, and a runner also learns an economical running technique by analogy.
I came to this thread hoping it would be a good training discussion but instead found that like many other threads on letsrun it has been ruined by JS. I never advocate for banning posters but if there was someone to change my mind on that it would be JS, the worlds worst coach and crappiest con man.
Is there anyone who could actually say something good about JS? I think he is either mentally disabled or one of the worst people I have ever come across. He pretends to be people he is not. He gives horrible training advice. He takes over every good training thread.
Mods please get rid of this disease.
not what we need wrote:
I came to this thread hoping it would be a good training discussion but instead found that like many other threads on letsrun it has been ruined by JS. I never advocate for banning posters but if there was someone to change my mind on that it would be JS, the worlds worst coach and crappiest con man.
Is there anyone who could actually say something good about JS? I think he is either mentally disabled or one of the worst people I have ever come across. He pretends to be people he is not. He gives horrible training advice. He takes over every good training thread.
Mods please get rid of this disease.
A lot of people know JS and how he works.
Uses many different handles, but will not admit to it, because he cannot admit he is telling a lie.
He cannot help this, it is part of his "disease" narcissism.
In his mind he truly is telling the truth and a great coach.
When things go wrong with a runner, it is never his fault, always blame another.
And if you quit with him/his training he will and does stalk you with fake handles and ask/tell you what would have been if you kept training with JS.
Again, he cannot help this, he is narcissistic.
He however will ignore you to get the better of you, like saying "i'm in control now"
That is why he will respond to some and does not to others when he get caught in the lies.
So, let Canefis go on with his training and only respond to that.
Try not to get involved in the mindgame of JS, how tempting it is.
Best of luck Canefis