Tribute to 02:20 Marathon

But now do you yet follow JS or train alone?

good luck.

It seems to be a tough objective for a first try.

What are your PRs at 5k/10k/half?

A like overkill in the details... Did you accomplish your 2:20 goal?

little not like

You can’t calculate your vdot from your easy pace on a treadmill. Please stop posting this rubbish.

not this guy again wrote:

You can’t calculate your vdot from your easy pace on a treadmill. Please stop posting this rubbish.

Read carefully, I did 3K TT

Impala31 wrote:

good luck.

It seems to be a tough objective for a first try.

What are your PRs at 5k/10k/half?

Yee, it will be extremely tough...

Please note: no PR's at 5k/10k/half... never run in race. Ok, may be before marathon I will try some races like 3k-21k as well

Dimitry wrote:

But now do you yet follow JS or train alone?

Follow JS Coach until marathon. So all my training now in his hands.

Canefis wrote:

Read carefully, I did 3K TT

Read carefully:

Current VDOT= approx 66-68...(based on LT pace, 5k pace and easy pace on treadmill)

not this guy again wrote:

Canefis wrote:

Read carefully, I did 3K TT

Read carefully:

Current VDOT= approx 66-68...(based on LT pace, 5k pace and easy pace on treadmill)

5k+LT+easy,

Tell me your data:

1) HRmax

2) HRresting

3) Threshold heart rate range

4) 1h running pace at 70%HRmax-90%HRmax, but tell exact 1h avg pace/avg heart rate (of course don't tell me any yours PRs, don't include here half marathon running if it is withing 1 hour :-)) ).

I will tell you your marathon prediction and current VDOT, and you compare with real one, ok?

If you want more accurate forecast, give me 5-7 1h runs

MattRun200423rd wrote:

little not like

Lol, love it when English is the commentator’s second language . You mean you are little and you don’t like the training idea? “Big do like ?”

call me wrote:

MattRun200423rd wrote:

little not like

Lol, love it when English is the commentator’s second language . You mean you are little and you don’t like the training idea? “Big do like ?”

Lol, love it when the commentator did not read the thread and looks ridiculous when commenting on one post ;)

Canefis wrote:

not this guy again wrote:

Read carefully:

5k+LT+easy,

Tell me your data:

1) HRmax

2) HRresting

3) Threshold heart rate range

4) 1h running pace at 70%HRmax-90%HRmax, but tell exact 1h avg pace/avg heart rate (of course don't tell me any yours PRs, don't include here half marathon running if it is withing 1 hour :-)) ).

I will tell you your marathon prediction and current VDOT, and you compare with real one, ok?

If you want more accurate forecast, give me 5-7 1h runs

I don’t need to give you any data. I know my vdot as I run a time trial or race regularly. Which is how you calculate current vdot (not by running easy on a treadmill or wristwatch HR).

Canefis wrote:

Impala31 wrote:

good luck.

It seems to be a tough objective for a first try.

What are your PRs at 5k/10k/half?

Yee, it will be extremely tough...

Please note: no PR's at 5k/10k/half... never run in race. Ok, may be before marathon I will try some races like 3k-21k as well

going from 9.25 3k after 4months of serious running to 2h20 marathon 6-7months after seems impossible.

I did the same as you : 9.32 with poor pacing 3k in august after 4months base and there is no way I would be able to run 2h20 in february whatever the training.

2h30 would already be a very very very good achievement.

I would put the over under at 2:55

9:25 is, at best, a mediocre collegiate 3k time. 2:20 is a very good sub-elite time, a minute off of an OTQ.

175 HR means you probably could've pushed harder. In no way does that effort translate anywhere close to 2:20 though.

I get that some people need to set unrealistic goals to stay motivated, but if you train and try to race like a 2:20 marathoner right now you will blow up.

There's nothing wrong with having that as a longer term goal, but don't delude yourself for the short term.

For goodness sakes it's your first marathon. Run it without crashing and burning then report back.

big HONKING birds wrote:

a minute off of an OTQ.

I take it you're not in the US, so this doesn't apply to you, but still

I know from my own career that treadmill and "normal" running is very equivalent. Right now a VDOT of 67.4 and a possible time of 2:28 at the marathon. Of course a "Mission Impossible" to reach 2:20 in February in Slava`s debut marathon. But still we can`t see the limit in Slava`s talent.

His heartrate tells there is space for more improvement, but his treadmill can`t go faster than 72 sec/ 400m . Will be crucial to see what happens when he will be back on land .What does he have to do when it comes to training times to accomplish the Mission Impossible? Well,... around 70 sec in the 20 x 400m , 3:10 min/ km at the LT:s and 4:10-4:15 min/ km at the aerob power easy runs. Not impossible , but of course a tough mission . So exciting! I just love to coach "Missions Impossible" )))

- Magic fall - :)

5th week:

Mo: easy 60min@04:25min/km, avg heart rate=143

Tue: 20x400@ 74sec, rec 120bpm;

We: easy 50min@04:25, avg heart rate=140

breezing perfect

legs perfect;

Thu: medium long run 80min@04:25;

Fri: easy 60min@04:25;

Sat: LT intervals (always hard for me...)