Officially over 200,000 dead Americans from Covid-19

Boulder bro wrote:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/herman-cain-died-of-covid-19-not-cancer/

^^^

Herman Cain and others did die of covid, cmon now b*tch please

And I am a scared little sheep.

Those that are criticizing the us are clearly just politically motivated. The us has better testing and is more open with data than anywhere else. It shouldnt be a surprise that they have more cases. It’s just common sense. It’s like if my neighbor has a complicated rain sensor and I just put out a cup, is it surprising that he would get more rain than me even if we lived right beside each other.

old news wrote:

Those that are criticizing the us are clearly just politically motivated. The us has better testing and is more open with data than anywhere else. It shouldnt be a surprise that they have more cases. It’s just common sense. It’s like if my neighbor has a complicated rain sensor and I just put out a cup, is it surprising that he would get more rain than me even if we lived right beside each other.

Ah, more blind assertions based on nothing but gut feeling. It's a short step from there to "everybody says so".

Take a look at the data:

The US has roughly the same number of tests and deaths per million of population as the UK, but nearly 4 times more cases. Americans can't or won't stop infecting each other.

The UK government's response is so bad that it's widely derided as either incompetent or operating with a hidden agenda but the US's response is clearly worse as the government at all levels is unable to stop transmission.

So what's the endgame? Herd immunity is an unknown and a big risk; rushing through a vaccine is a) risky and b) unlikely to be effective enough across the population because of antivax nuts; or going back to normal and either reducing the quality of life for the elderly/ vulnerable or reducing their life expectancy.

Good luck to any politicians saying 'we'll go back to normal and if you're over 70 or ill, you're collateral damage'. Not going to happen.

Fox News - the heartland of bs and conspiracy theories. And you 'buy' that individual medical professionals all over the US, who certify cause of death, are all working together to lie about each person that they certify as a Covid death. I think it is you who is certifiable.

The cure is worse than the disease:

https://coloradosun.com/2020/08/17/denver-coronavirus-deaths-heart-attack/

According to analysis from the imperial college of London 2/3 of people with comorbidities would have succumbed to COVID within one year regardless of COVID.

joedirt wrote:

CorrectorII wrote:

Yup, it;s even more ridiculous for HIV: zero deaths by "HIV alone" so far, the virus doesn't kill

Can’t remember any time they cancelled sports, school and everything else for HIV.

And we should not stop it for this virus either.

RSTUV Anon wrote:

Dum-dums out in force, I see. Sorry your parents failed you and you have to get attention by sh.i.t posting.

How many who die of auto accidents are obese or diabetic or have cancer? Most but they DIE from the accident. We don’t count deaths by what the would’ve died from eventually.

^triggered ^

Dan Marino and Andorra have the population of a college campus.

And here comes Ciro to the rescue. May we PLEASE have some more opinions from you and Armstronglivs? Thanks and stuff.

joedirt wrote:

CorrectorII wrote:

Yup, it;s even more ridiculous for HIV: zero deaths by "HIV alone" so far, the virus doesn't kill

Can’t remember any time they cancelled sports, school and everything else for HIV.

I assume this is satire but given your previous this might be a serious point for you.

You can’t catch HIV from sitting beside someone at a basketball game or in a classroom.

joedirt wrote:

The cure is worse than the disease:

https://coloradosun.com/2020/08/17/denver-coronavirus-deaths-heart-attack/

According to analysis from the imperial college of London 2/3 of people with comorbidities would have succumbed to COVID within one year regardless of COVID.

Calling bullsh#t. The Imperial College of London found that the risk of death associated with contracting COVID 19 statistically mirrored the risk of death at each age group from all other causes. The assumption is that there must be some overlap between people who died of COVID 19 and those who would have died in the same time period. This was not an analysis of comorbidities. It was also not an analysis of years lost. What it actually showed was that COVID 19 can pack in an additional year's worth of death if strong action isn't taken to slow the spread of the virus. But this has widely been misinterpreted by purveyor's of disinformation to mean that COVID 19 isn't dangerous because everyone who is dying would have been dead within the same time period because they were already deathly ill when they caught the virus. That is not for a second what the study showed.

people die every day wrote:

And here comes Ciro to the rescue. May we PLEASE have some more opinions from you and Armstronglivs? Thanks and stuff.

You’re welcome, anytime.

Complete rubbish- try some actual data with context.

A little factoid from the US as of Sept 6th: In 2020 the total death number in the US versus 2017’s total death number was 952,398 shy of hitting 2017 death toll. That amounts to 33.9% left of the total to equal the 2017 numbers. With 118 days left in the year which is 32.3% of the year left it looks like a similar outcome to 2017.

Further, "excess deaths" from 2014 to 2017 deaths increased by ~187,000. From 2017 to 2020 deaths are projected to increase by 5% or ~141,000. Apparently having a pandemic saved 46,000 lives.

However, the stat is even more interesting in that here in 2020 the overall population is higher than it was in 2017 so as an overall percentage of population this year’s death total is even lower than stated above. All they’ve done from country to country was swap the flu death attributions to covid- go check the week by week stats from this year to last year on the CDC site for but one example.

There was a slight increase in the total all cause deaths for about 6 weeks immediately after the lockdown but that was from the murder by ventilation and neglect in nursing homes.

No pandemic.

Probably about 188,000 who would have died by now without Covid when you consider the median age, terrible health, and the fact the majority of deaths took place in nursing homes where most folks don't last six months.

It's pure fear mongering with an agenda

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

Still seems vaguely detached to me as I don’t know a single person who has even tested positive. Condolences to those who have lost loved ones. And sad that the Democrats have used even a pandemic to try to divide our nation.

There is no hard data on excess deaths yet compiled.

Hmmmmmm. 83.3% of those on your list are in South America. Must be something in the air!

is nothing beneath them... apparently not wrote:

Shelton wrote:

A sad milestone.

Rest In Peace.

Still seems vaguely detached to me as I don’t know a single person who has even tested positive. Condolences to those who have lost loved ones. And sad that the Democrats have used even a pandemic to try to divide our nation.

A friend of mine, Chris, died in Seattle from COVID-19.

I’ve known multiple people who have had COVID-19.