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Thelonesomeloser wrote:
there'd be a lot more posts wrote:
imagine if Serena had done this!
There would be a high stakes lynching.
So very true. And by these same posters who are up in arm about Djokovic's booting.
rojo wrote:
Fair or foul? He clearly didn't mean to hit her and was immediately apologetic when he did but the facts are he did hit her with a ball.
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1302705778394984450It would have been fascinating if there had been fans what the reaction would have been. Would they want to see him DQd or would they be irate?
Personally, I'd rather let him negotiate with the lineswoman. Maybe make the rule is an automatic DQ unless the linesman/woman says he can play on. "Novak, I'm not hurt that bad. If you agree to pay me a minimum of $100,000 and 25% of your winnings from this tournament, you are back in."
To me, it's kind of like a kid throwing a bat in little league. It's usually a pure frustration move but occasionally just a kid unintentionally releasing. It almost never hurts anybody, but you warn the kid and toss him the next time. If he hit another kid with the bat, you toss him the first time. There will be other games, tournaments, etc. and it's a learning experience.
NYDCRunner1 wrote:
Thelonesomeloser wrote:
There would be a high stakes lynching.
So very true. And by these same posters who are up in arm about Djokovic's booting.
Haz SuRana Williamz Jamped the ShaRkZ? ? ?
jamin wrote:
lol that was a ridiculous decision to DQ him
Federer often whacks balls at ball boys/girls, who like catching them
If you're on the court, you should be paying attention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAdNdh6R9IE&ab_channel=RichardS.Dargan
I'm gonna take the unpopular position of agreeing with jamin on this one.
It's seen as playful (even charming) when the linesman catches the ball -- that's all he was going for.
baseball analogy wrote:
rojo wrote:
Fair or foul? He clearly didn't mean to hit her and was immediately apologetic when he did but the facts are he did hit her with a ball.
https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1302705778394984450It would have been fascinating if there had been fans what the reaction would have been. Would they want to see him DQd or would they be irate?
Personally, I'd rather let him negotiate with the lineswoman. Maybe make the rule is an automatic DQ unless the linesman/woman says he can play on. "Novak, I'm not hurt that bad. If you agree to pay me a minimum of $100,000 and 25% of your winnings from this tournament, you are back in."
To me, it's kind of like a kid throwing a bat in little league. It's usually a pure frustration move but occasionally just a kid unintentionally releasing. It almost never hurts anybody, but you warn the kid and toss him the next time. If he hit another kid with the bat, you toss him the first time. There will be other games, tournaments, etc. and it's a learning experience.
Yeah, but bats are much more dangerous than tennis balls.
simplicity works wrote:
baseball analogy wrote:
To me, it's kind of like a kid throwing a bat in little league. It's usually a pure frustration move but occasionally just a kid unintentionally releasing. It almost never hurts anybody, but you warn the kid and toss him the next time. If he hit another kid with the bat, you toss him the first time. There will be other games, tournaments, etc. and it's a learning experience.
Yeah, but bats are much more dangerous than tennis balls.
If a hothead, out of frustration/anger, grabs his handgun and pulls the trigger but immediately upon noticing the other person is down, suddenly becomes very concerned and apologetic, I think most would say they still committed a crime. No, Novak did not shoot someone but similarly, that he appeared sorry and concerned AFTER does not remove his guilt in breaking the rule. It was intentional at the time he did it... his temper took over and he did something stupid. His removal from the tournament was warranted, otherwise there is an understanding in tennis that the great Novak can throw tantrums and break rules but others can't. Novak has shown flashes of disrespect for the sport before and unfortunately for him with this incident he clearly broke a rule. Don't blame the rules or the refs.
Armstronglivs wrote:
[quote]Frankely Speaking wrote:
it is a rule relating to the code of sportsmanship, which many here who are not tennis players don't grasp.
Being a tennis player or not is irrelevant.
walter j wrote:
It wasn’t intentional but it was astonishingly careless and stupid, and the rules are clear.
Last year in MLS Kaku got frustrated and tried to rifle a dead ball into the sideline ads but missed high and smoked a KC fan in the face. He was ejected, fined and suspended two games. The rules are in place to prevent people from acting like idiots. Hit the bricks Djoker.
+1
Frankely Speaking wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
[quote]Frankely Speaking wrote:
it is a rule relating to the code of sportsmanship, which many here who are not tennis players don't grasp.
Being a tennis player or not is irrelevant.
Understanding the game is.
Frankely Speaking wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I'd like to see you duck a ball struck forcefully by the world number one player that you don't know is coming at you.
A the pace he hit it Helen Keller could have returned it.
Big talk.
The game was over; the linesperson wouldn't have been expecting a ball cracked at her - or even necessarily been looking at Djokovic, who was going to his chair between ends. As a linesperson at a grand slam she has probably had quite a bit of experience of seeing and dodging 120mph serves.
He was reckless. He hurt her. He paid the appropriate price under the rules.
No sympathy for Djokovic. He is the top men's player in the world right now by quite a lot. He is capable for turning a match around just by dialing it in and nailing a few returns. He was going to win that match and lost his composure for no good reason. Tennis has done a lot over the past few years to reign in bad sportsmanship and the rules need to be enforced. Tennis matches are very long now that the game is dominated by ground strokes. We do not need to have to sit through long player tantrums with racket throwing and cussing out the chair umpire. Tennis indulged players for too long on that kind of behavior. It is not fair to the other player in a match when a player gets to blow up and possibly use the moment to turn the momentum back in his favor.
Djokovic has always had a dark side. Coming up, he was a much nicer and easy going player. He would do his impressions of other tennis players and would bounce the ball a dozens times before his serve because his nerves were so bad. Since he has come to dominate the tour as Federer and Nadal have faded (and no one has been able to rise to their level), he has come to have a sense of entitlement to being able to win every tournament. Hopefully, this will take him down a notch.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Frankely Speaking wrote:
Being a tennis player or not is irrelevant.
Understanding the game is.
No it is not.
Frankely Speaking wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Understanding the game is.
No it is not.
Because you, an anonymous poster on a running message board, says so. Right.
Doug E. Fresh wrote:
Because you, an anonymous poster on a running message board, says so. .
As are you and Armstronglivs.
throat bruise wrote:
rojo wrote:
Fair or foul? He clearly didn't mean to hit her and was immediately apologetic when he did but the facts are he did hit her with a ball.
MAJOR FOUL
Nope. He did mean to hit her. He hit the ball at her very hard -- right after a line call against him. What he tried to do was apologize for his hit whacking her dead in the throat. That caused her to lose breath and collapse. She will have a major throat bruise because this ill tempered little-minded man.
A throat bruise can get rather ugly, and if the voice is affected then that means the vocal cords were damaged and recovery takes longer. Djokovic is more likely to get sued than buy his way back in.
Did you even watch the video? I wouldn't even describe it as a hard hit, much less a "very hard" hit. I don't think anyone can know for sure whether he intended to hit her or not, but he did intentionally hit it in her direction. So at the least he did knowingly and intentionally hit the ball such that it might hit her.
Frankely Speaking wrote:
Doug E. Fresh wrote:
Because you, an anonymous poster on a running message board, says so. .
As are you and Armstronglivs.
Nothing gets past you, does it?
HLq wrote:
throat bruise wrote:
MAJOR FOUL
Nope. He did mean to hit her. He hit the ball at her very hard -- right after a line call against him. What he tried to do was apologize for his hit whacking her dead in the throat. That caused her to lose breath and collapse. She will have a major throat bruise because this ill tempered little-minded man.
A throat bruise can get rather ugly, and if the voice is affected then that means the vocal cords were damaged and recovery takes longer. Djokovic is more likely to get sued than buy his way back in.
Did you even watch the video? I wouldn't even describe it as a hard hit, much less a "very hard" hit. I don't think anyone can know for sure whether he intended to hit her or not, but he did intentionally hit it in her direction. So at the least he did knowingly and intentionally hit the ball such that it might hit her.
Yeah Novak doesn't even look angry or aggressive to me. Shapo's hit was like 10 times worse.
https://youtu.be/H4e1L-NcIqcMe and my buddies were hanging out watching basketballl when we saw this news Sunday. Not a single one of us could be believe he got DQ'd and to portray it as he hit the ball at the line judge is absurd. He wasn't looking in the direction. Absolutely stupid results-driven decision. Clearly no bad intent on the Joker's part. Why was the lady not paying attention to the point that could hit her in the throat?