Most hyped accomplished least track athlete?

who's Maton?....

I am more about records than titles. Putting it in perspective, let's say that you run 4:05 senior year and set your school record and are 10th best guy in the country and get a large scholarship but finish 2nd at your state meet to the 5th best guy in the country who runs 4:03. The next year, your brother wins state in 4:20 and gets no scholarship and goes D3. The big board in your school lists the school record for everyone to see for eternity.

go go away wrote:

I am more about records than titles. Putting it in perspective, let's say that you run 4:05 senior year and set your school record and are 10th best guy in the country and get a large scholarship but finish 2nd at your state meet to the 5th best guy in the country who runs 4:03. The next year, your brother wins state in 4:20 and gets no scholarship and goes D3. The big board in your school lists the school record for everyone to see for eternity.

Another loser with a loser mentality.

Your brother is a state champion, a winner. He won. You are a loser.

shootpost wrote:

go go away wrote:

The big board in your school lists the school record for everyone to see for eternity.

Another loser with a loser mentality.

Your brother is a state champion, a winner. He won. You are a loser.

The "big board" should list state champions like they do in other sports, not statistics like times. The golf state champ picture does not have his/her score, just that they are state champion.

By your standard, if the record is 4:45 in 2018 it is superior to the 1933 state champion who ran 4:46 and is what others should see when entering the school. Notice how one says 'champion' and the other does not. It is a race, not time trials from different eras and conditions. Thats my opinion!

You can go to any college track team's website and find their all-time top 10 times in a click. To find conference Champs, you have to locate the yearly press release and scroll through it. You can go to most high school teams' websites and find school records but not conference or state champs.

That is the point I am trying to make. What you said is true but it should not be in my opinion.

Track coaches, fans, and athletes can be their own worst enemies in a variety of situations. Many focus on statistics rather than winning. Non-scored meets, etc. hurt visibility and ultimately popularity of the sport.

Any college team I’ve ever seen has ample information about high placings at NCAAs and conference titles - what you wrote is not consistent with my experience.

go go away wrote:

I am more about records than titles. Putting it in perspective, let's say that you run 4:05 senior year and set your school record and are 10th best guy in the country and get a large scholarship but finish 2nd at your state meet to the 5th best guy in the country who runs 4:03. The next year, your brother wins state in 4:20 and gets no scholarship and goes D3. The big board in your school lists the school record for everyone to see for eternity.

I wonder why Michael Jordan was so obsessed with winning and not his stats? I guess you won't get that because you're only an also-ran. Losing comes more easily to you.

klecker the king wrote:

You can go to any college track team's website and find their all-time top 10 times in a click. To find conference Champs, you have to locate the yearly press release and scroll through it. You can go to most high school teams' websites and find school records but not conference or state champs.

Bingo! Bragging rights. Or even on the high school level. When someone has the state record that Trumps a state title.

A personal example. In highschool I was a county/ region runner up 7 times. The one 3200 region title I won was because the kid who went on to qualify for footlocker the next year had decided to do baseball and wasn't in perfect shape. The only two county titles I won was because a certain highschool national record holder decided not to run the 16/32. Heard to really feel like I was the champion of the area

Armstronglivs wrote:

go go away wrote:

I am more about records than titles. Putting it in perspective, let's say that you run 4:05 senior year and set your school record and are 10th best guy in the country and get a large scholarship but finish 2nd at your state meet to the 5th best guy in the country who runs 4:03. The next year, your brother wins state in 4:20 and gets no scholarship and goes D3. The big board in your school lists the school record for everyone to see for eternity.

I wonder why Michael Jordan was so obsessed with winning and not his stats? I guess you won't get that because you're only an also-ran. Losing comes more easily to you.

MJ had a losing record 6/ 15 titles. Only won when his team was the overwhelming favorite.

Provide some links then because you are incorrect. Here is the premier track school.

https://goducks.com/sports/track-and-field

Click the drop down and you will easily find current performance lists and all time performance lists. You won't find conference or national placings there. You will have to dig to find a document that includes those. That is how nearly every college structures their websites. Walk into the indoor track or outdoor track and you will see the record boards.

jenapharm wrote:

so who do you say is the most hyped current t&f athlete that has accomplished the least?

Depending on if you count him as current, Andrew Wheating. I swear people hype the hell out of him and he did like nothing

In the UK, Adam Gemili is hyped ridiculously by the BBC

Armstronglivs wrote:

you're only an also-ran. Losing comes more easily to you.

You are a horrible person.

Pro Hobby Jogger wrote:

Obviouslee wrote:

Two overhyped ones are:

1) McLaughlin

2)Brazier

Hype around both has been especially nauseating. Every time they are going to race it's about how easily will one of them break the world record. Obvious to everyone already is that they have already peaked and will accomplish nothing significant. Doesn't help them that they both have childish awkward/princessy behavior probably due to some heavy insecurities.

Brazier has AR and a WC gold

McLaughlin is number 2 performer all time and WC silver. Neither of them are overhyped in general. You’re the one with childish insecurities.

Got to agree with "Obviouslee" here. Yeah, Brazier has run some fast times, but every time he is due to race the hype of how he is basically guaranteed to break the world record is pretty laughable and becomes a bit nauseating after page 9. There is no way he just jogs to a 1:40 to break Rudisha's record. So, yeah, from that perspective very over hyped. Still a good runner - I'm not saying he isn't, but the level of hype is ridiculous.

sydney mclaughlin.over hyped beyond belief,and everybody assumes she's the next olympic champion,and breaker of multiple world records.that might end up happening,but 99% of time with teen phenoms,it doesnt.

You fools its obviously usain bolt. Im mean only 9 Olympic medals come on man how has nobody picked him

klecker the king wrote:

We all have had time to reflect and review the submissions. My current rankings are:

1-Cain

2-Jorgensen

3-Maton

4-Slagowski

5-Ping

Cain is the high school GOAT. Record-breaking performances from 800 meters (1:59.51 HSR) all the way to 5000 meters (15:45.46 HSR) and everything in between (4:04.62 1500m HSR, 8:58.48 3000m HSR). In 2014, she won the USA indoor national championships at 1500 meters and was second at the USA outdoor national championships. She holds the world junior indoor recod at 1000 meters. She was hyped and her career subsequently cratered. But was she overhyped? Given her performances at the time, I'd say no.

klecker the king wrote:

We all have had time to reflect and review the submissions. My current rankings are:

1-Cain

2-Jorgensen

3-Maton

4-Slagowski

5-Ping

Maton didn't receive much hype at all, considering he broke 4 in high school.