Covid

Some will disagree with 10 . I have heard some state that not shutting down woukd have been worse for the economy. I don't follow the logic.

It could be argued that Covid is sufficiently disruptive that even there’s no official government mandated shutdown, people will be afraid to go out and participate in the economy.

go away run wrote:

Some will disagree with 10 . I have heard some state that not shutting down woukd have been worse for the economy. I don't follow the logic.

How does that disagree with 10? Both options can have a severe impact on economy.

Honestly some of the morans on this forum would disagree with all of those.

there are many who would disagree with #1 and so by default all the others except #10

Many people disagree with 9.

This is almost a syllogistic attempt at being logical. If all of your statements are true then the only conclusion is that we have no idea what the f is going on.

I have a serious question.

Sars-cov-2 is the virus that causes the disease Covid-19.

If a person contracts the virus but does not have any symptoms, do they have the disease? Normally a disease would require some kind of symptoms.

They say 40% of those infected are asymptomatic. And a lot of those asymptomatic cases are middle-aged folks who are supposed to be in the higher risk category. ? Doesn't make sense if this is supposed to be the apocalyptic killer virus that the "experts" keep saying.

Sounds like the PCR test spits out a lot of false positives and is completely unreliable or someone is fudging the numbers. Look...the UK got caught fudging the numbers! (who would have thought):

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8628159/amp/Ministers-quietly-remove-1-3million-coronavirus-tests-official-figures.html

It’s not so much that PCR has a problem with false positives but it can be so sensitive that it will sometimes detect dead RNA for days or even weeks after a person has beaten the infection and is no longer capable of spreading the virus. It doesn’t tell a person when they got infected or whether they’re infectious to others.

Can we agree we have been subject to a massive fear campaign?

moloch wrote:

Whoppa appa pie fench fie wrote:

Many people disagree with 9.

This is almost a syllogistic attempt at being logical. If all of your statements are true then the only conclusion is that we have no idea what the f is going on.

All false. I only made one statement, and that was that many people disagree with 9.

11) The reaction to covid (not covid itself) has had many damaging effects on society beyond just job disruption and ecomomics. Just a sample:

https://www.insider.com/cdc-11-percent-us-adults-seriously-considered-suicide-in-june-2020-8

11% of American adults reported seriously considering suicide in June, about double the percentage who did so last summer, a new CDC report finds.

Rates of suicide ideation were highest among 18- to 24-year-olds (25%) and unpaid caregivers for adults (30%).

The report also found that the prevalence of symptoms of depression and anxiety quadrupled and tripled, respectively, compared to last year.

In total, 40% of Americans reported some mental health issue or substance abuse related to the pandemic.

I agree. With the exception I do think certain places more people have had Covid than haven't. But as an entire country more haven't in the US.

1. yes

2. most likely.

3. Likely true. It's what we're told. actually not PROVEN, because the tests aren't necessarily proving Covid 19 specifically. It hasn't been isolated for detection.

4. probably

5. yes

6. yes

7. This depends on what you define as a lingering side effect. Permanent damage? Not proven. Not disproven either.

8. probably, and yes obviously.

9. certainly I don't but I can't say that NOBODY does. Can't speak for everyone.

10. yes, but I would say 'impacted by the shutdowns', or other govt. measures. A virus has no will to affect the economy. Only a response to it can do that.

YMMV wrote:

11) The reaction to covid (not covid itself) has had many damaging effects on society beyond just job disruption and ecomomics. Just a sample:

https://www.insider.com/cdc-11-percent-us-adults-seriously-considered-suicide-in-june-2020-8

11% of American adults reported seriously considering suicide in June, about double the percentage who did so last summer, a new CDC report finds.

Rates of suicide ideation were highest among 18- to 24-year-olds (25%) and unpaid caregivers for adults (30%).

The report also found that the prevalence of symptoms of depression and anxiety quadrupled and tripled, respectively, compared to last year.

In total, 40% of Americans reported some mental health issue or substance abuse related to the pandemic.

Americans have become so weak. Imagine how they’d have reacted to having to live through a world war or two.

Covid was deliberately seized upon by the Democrats as an electoral tool. Their goal is to drive the country insane enough to vote for a man who has trouble uttering a coherent sentence.

That man recently said that if elected, he would make everyone in the country wear masks, even in their own homes. There are millions of psychotics running around trying to force the rest of us to wear a bandana, a torn up shirt, a piece of cheesecloth, anything to save their grandma.

Outstanding post BW.

That's exactly what's happening here. But these ridiculous leftist trolls come here whining that we're spreading misinformation and want the posts deleted.

Anybody with a half a brain can see the what the Democrats are doing to reclaim the WH. They've hyped & overblown this virus so much it's not even funny anymore. They've jacked the numbers up beyond belief to scare & frighten so many gullible people. The Democratic governors inject fear & hysteria to justify their power & control leading to obedience & capitulation.

The left is now trying to compare this to 1918 Spanish flu. The Spanish flu killed 675,000 Americans with a population of only 103 million in 1918. Globally, the Spanish killed at least 50 million with a population of only 1.8 Billion. The majority of deaths with the Spanish flu involved the 20-40 age demographics. The vast majority of deaths of this cold virus involve older people over 70 with pre-existing conditions. This isn't a pandemic - this is strong cold virus that's hard on old people with underlying medical conditions...that's really something to be scared about. Lol.

The Democrats have managed to create an environment of so much fear and hysteria that everyone is suspicious of everyone else. If you're not wearing a mask or not wearing one properly, people freak out. If you happen to sneeze, cough or clear your throat in public, people freak out. If you happen to get too close to someone in a grocery store line, people freak out. If you're a young person who happens to test positive but are asymptomatic - you're conditioned to believe that you're an evil spreader and need to lock yourself up. We look like a bunch of Borg controlled clones with masks and social distancing markings everywhere.

The Democrats are in the home stretch toward the election - they smell blood in the water. They'll do anything to keep Trump from being elected. They will be ramping up the fear again over the next three months like it's the end of the world. Watch for more supposedly big outbreaks in Democratic controlled states & cities with harsh lockdowns.

Fact #11 The US is paying health care providers extra money to list a hospitalization or death as Covid. They get significantly more money if a patient goes on ventilator.