My coworker admitted to not paying her taxes the last couple years. Should I turn her in?

"Should I lick Uncle Sam's boots?"

Hey bub, how about you do some deep reporting on the amount of taxes that corporations are illegally not paying, then we can crack down on your coworker.

Sounds like you're someone who is susceptible to the logic that your coworker is "getting ahead" of you, and you want her to be punished so that you can continue to believe the rules of the game are fair. Newsflash, the rules are not fair, no matter how much you indulge your desire to punish a small fish.

Free loading CW wrote:

We were talking about the stimulus checks, and my coworker said she and her husband hadn't gotten them and probably wouldn't. I was confused and said something about how everyone who paid their taxes gets it. Then she said they were "behind" and hadn't paid their taxes in "awhile." Uhhh...

This bothers me. I know what she makes and have an idea of what her husband makes, and their combined income is over $100k/year. They should be paying taxes. Apparently they haven't been caught yet somehow... Should I turn them in?

Yeah, do it ya creepy stoolpigeon. Drop the dime on your co-worker. Be a narc and you'll feel better own your life. Fink.

Free loading CW wrote:

We were talking about the stimulus checks, and my coworker said she and her husband hadn't gotten them and probably wouldn't. I was confused and said something about how everyone who paid their taxes gets it. Then she said they were "behind" and hadn't paid their taxes in "awhile." Uhhh...

This bothers me. I know what she makes and have an idea of what her husband makes, and their combined income is over $100k/year. They should be paying taxes. Apparently they haven't been caught yet somehow... Should I turn them in?

If it was 100 Million I would. Tax fraud on 100K is not that much compared to what the big players are doing, and often legally I might add. 100K is what I would call middle class.

Quasi-Boom wrote:

Yeah, do it ya creepy stoolpigeon. Drop the dime on your co-worker. Be a narc and you'll feel better own your life. Fink.

Gotta be GOP. Someone who wants to tear down someone else getting ahead, and uses "they should..." as justification for policing them. Someone who is easy to induce into this line of thinking. Logical libertarians would not get hung up on taxes like this. I'd argue a left-winger dem would not try to put their boot down on a small fish. But maybe a "centrist" dem.

At this point we should put our resources into the tax evasion of Donald Trump.

That is way more interesting than you friend.

You should do her a favor and tell her that the IRS almost certainly will catch up with them at some point.

This happened to a former student of mine and her husband. They got away with not filing for several years--until they didn't. Instead of just admitting their wrongdoing--which would have meant a very substantial financial penalty, at least--they fought it. Both ended up in prison and she died fairly soon after being released. She was in her 50s.

Do your coworker a favor and tell her that she and her husband will help themselves immensely by going to the IRS *before* it catches them. The (likely) alternative is terrible.

Limoslne Libertarian wrote:

Quasi-Boom wrote:

Yeah, do it ya creepy stoolpigeon. Drop the dime on your co-worker. Be a narc and you'll feel better own your life. Fink.

Gotta be GOP. Someone who wants to tear down someone else getting ahead, and uses "they should..." as justification for policing them. Someone who is easy to induce into this line of thinking. Logical libertarians would not get hung up on taxes like this. I'd argue a left-winger dem would not try to put their boot down on a small fish. But maybe a "centrist" dem.

I think there is no shortage of schadenfreude types in any political group. It's easily disguised under law and order, reparations, justice, etc. slogans.

You don't want to be a snitch and end up on a state yard, though. San Quentin, Angola, Polunsky. Hard time. You don't want to be there with a rat-jacket.

Does your employer (and the husband's employer) not withhold income tax? Do they claim a bunch of imaginary dependents on their W4? Are you somehow familiar with their investment income?

She was dumb enough to tell on herself and she was breaking the law. Guaranteed she's a liberal. Smh

Quasi-Boom wrote:

I think there is no shortage of schadenfreude types in any political group. It's easily disguised under law and order, reparations, justice, etc. slogans.

Don't have much of a follow-up, other than to say: I didn't agree at first, but I thought about it for a minute and I totally do. There is plenty of schadenfreude in the "eat the rich" crowd, I just didn't recognize it as such. All that to say thanks for challenging my perspective, I feel like I expanded my view a bit today.

Nope. Trust me karma will get you if you do. Maybe one day your ISP will tip off the authorities about certain illegal pornographic websites you visit.

barthoIomew_maxwelI wrote:

Quasi-Boom wrote:

I think there is no shortage of schadenfreude types in any political group. It's easily disguised under law and order, reparations, justice, etc. slogans.

Don't have much of a follow-up, other than to say: I didn't agree at first, but I thought about it for a minute and I totally do. There is plenty of schadenfreude in the "eat the rich" crowd, I just didn't recognize it as such. All that to say thanks for challenging my perspective, I feel like I expanded my view a bit today.

Sounds good, Bart. But keep in mind that my primary advice was that don't want to end up a yard pigeon in the state penitentiary. AdSeg can only help so much.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Nope. Trust me karma will get you if you do. Maybe one day your ISP will tip off the authorities about certain illegal pornographic websites you visit.

I'm kind of surprised by the bulk of the responses. NOT reporting theft is the RIGHT thing to do? You guys have very questionable morals.

Free loading CW wrote:

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Nope. Trust me karma will get you if you do. Maybe one day your ISP will tip off the authorities about certain illegal pornographic websites you visit.

I'm kind of surprised by the bulk of the responses. NOT reporting theft is the RIGHT thing to do? You guys have very questionable morals.

You wanted to know if you should report your coworker for tax fraud for ideological reasons (her tax evasion barely affects you), even though it would potentially ruin her life. So you started a thread...on LRC of all places...to see what people thought.

You are disappointed we didn't validate your pathetic urge to punish. Go away. Wah wah morals. Shut up.

Tax money goes to vital programs like social security, the national parks, and public education. This outlines what you should do: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/taxes/09/reporting-tax-cheats.asp

Aunt Sam wrote:

Tax money goes to vital programs like social security, the national parks, and public education. This outlines what you should do:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/taxes/09/reporting-tax-cheats.asp

I get very, VERY skeptical when someone just tells me "what I should do". No. Why start this thread then? This entire thread is a debate over whether to help enforce the laws, or to stand by. I believe in this case it is better to stand by. And if you are going to report the person, give them a bit of a heads-up so they can pay the IRS themselves. The amount of money they are skimming is an unbelievably small drop in the ocean, and that goes into my thinking.

Do you do a citizen's arrest on anyone who is going over the speed limit? If not, why are you so passive in the case where actual lives are on the line, and why are you so aggressively pursuing your goal of snitching on your coworker? Shouldn't you be more worried about traffic violations? Just looking for some philosophical consistency.

As long as they're getting a W-2 or 1099 for their employment, the IRS knows about their income and will deal with it. No need for you to get involved.

Free loading CW wrote:

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Nope. Trust me karma will get you if you do. Maybe one day your ISP will tip off the authorities about certain illegal pornographic websites you visit.

I'm kind of surprised by the bulk of the responses. NOT reporting theft is the RIGHT thing to do? You guys have very questionable morals.

Fink. Snitch. Tattletale. Canary. Squealer. Blabbermouth. Stoolie. Go ahead, rattus. Go squawk to The Man. Sing like a tufted titmouse.

When she says "we haven't paid our taxes" what she probably meant (or what she actually said, but you got it wrong) was that "we haven't FILED our taxes" in some time.

Bad, yes, but it's entirely possible that she is owed money by the government, as a large number of people get a refund of some amount after write-offs and such.

If she has a job, her (your) employer deducts taxes from her paycheck.