troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
or 28, depends on the certificate
troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
or 28, depends on the certificate
To be fair to all you guys who are stateside...the junior scene is far less competitive and stacked over here and growing up just down the road from Max (and also third place in that race Max Wharton, who is at college in the States), I can honestly say that the only drug taking in Halifax is copious amounts of heroin and cannabis
why can't yo guys just enjoy a good or great performance?
What a bunch of angry nothing some of you are.
He's 18. He's a big lad, but he has a lot more left.
canacowski? wrote:
troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
or 28, depends on the certificate
So he ran 1:41 at 35? You're a moran.
1500 m man wrote:
Yeah, like I said, paced races against adults in British Milers Club elite races. A far cry from a US high school meet.
Super talented runner though. Could be the next Steve Ovett or the next Dave Sharpe, who was good but should have been better given the talent he had. Never a given in athletes.
Well Burgin has had one race at 18 (because of Covid) and he's ran 1:44. Last year, because of injury, he had only 5 races - one of those was a heat of the British U23 championship, and he ran his 1:45 in the unpaced final. The year before that he set his age record in the unpaced European U18 championship final.
As his birthday is in late May, it's quite possible that if it hadn't been for Covid he would have broken 1:45 earlier this season just before he turned 18.
Burgin seems a lot more level headed than Sharpe was. I would have thought having his father and grandfather as his coaches is a huge plus as well. From what I've read, Sharpe was a bit simple. There's one story of him being found by the frantic GB team management wolfing down a pizza or something in the canteen with less than one hour to go before the European Championship final (in which he finished second).
You always try to find something positive to say about these Brits and you twist reality to for your fantasies. You do not do that for the black runners. It is almost as if these Brits get credit for Ventolin calculator personal bests and then the blacks are discredited due to your jealousy.
Botswana is not Kenya. His birth certificate is legit. If you saw him at the World Junior Championships where he won Gold you would have thought he was 16.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/396013-288635-human-alarm-sets-eyes-on-pre-classic-olympics
Amos in all likelihood was not 18 when he ran 1:41 the first time behind Rudisha in 2012. He did it again 7 years later. If he was 20-22 when he did it the first time, that would be much less surprising since many of the world's best middle distance runners have peaked in their early to mid twenties, while doing it again when he was 27-29 would also make sense, as you can keep your speed and add endurance in your mid to late twenties. In the meantime, he was often doing other things or getting injured. In fact, in that race won by Brazier in 1:42.71 last year, where Amos got injured again, I think, Amos went out in an absolutely crazy time and was just overtaken at the end in extreme rigor mortis. Had he gone out a little more reasonably, he might have gone low 1:41.
https://tradingeconomics.com/botswana/completeness-of-birth-registration-rural-percent-wb-data.htmlSapel wrote:
Botswana is not Kenya. His birth certificate is legit. If you saw him at the World Junior Championships where he won Gold you would have thought he was 16.
https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/12-sports/396013-288635-human-alarm-sets-eyes-on-pre-classic-olympics
This is the race I was thinking of, Zurich 2019, in which Amos went out in what looks like 23.3/48.3 (Abda leading in 48.23). Brazier runs 1:42.70 officially. At 24/49, who knows what Amos might have run. He closed in about 29 after 23.3/25/26. 1:14.3-1:14.4.
Impala31 wrote:
usnspecialist wrote:
He certainly has a great chance to get there by Paris 2024, but expecting it for tokyo 2021 is not fair to him.
A 18yo guy running 1:44 solo in the first race of the season can defenitely run 1:43 this year in a big race and 1:42 low next year which will put him in great position for a OG medal if he stays injury free and can handle the heats
1:43.1 would make him 5th all time performer Junior - perhaps next summer. Would be a bit of a long shot, but possible.
troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
Great assessment, troller n chief. Your statement is such a nonchalant dismissal of outrageous potential. While Max Burgin's 1:44.75 is hardly cream of the crop versus the world's best, running that time at the age of 18 is effin' FANTASTIC. While Max Burgin's 1:44.75 is hardly Amos' 1:41.7 at the same age, it is still effin' FANTASTIC.
I suppose, given that twisted logic that runs through your brain, you'd say "big whoop" to Marty Liquori's first high school sub-4:00 mile, 3:59.8, because Jim Ryun had run it in 3:55.3...and 3:56.8...and 3:58.1...and 3:58.3...and 3:59.0, all in high school.
Yeah at this rate he’s gonna run 1:35 let’s just give him the title now.
Sapel wrote:
Botswana is not Kenya. His birth certificate is legit. If you saw him at the World Junior Championships where he won Gold you would have thought he was 16.
what this guy? 16? hahahahahahaha
https://media.aws.iaaf.org/media/LargeL/2bfa4a07-7ee4-47df-9796-c9afa9242b47.jpg?v=-862740208khorrps wrote:
in summary: africans are age and drug cheats while britbongs only have talent and work
age cheating is a speciality of Africans yes and is very common. You often see Africans peaking at "18" even for long distances. And in XC world champ there are many top 10 in junior that disappear after.
Drugs are everywhere though, not an African thing.
you often see sprinters, including caucasians, that peak early. that's not because they're age cheats but limited talents and early bloomers
Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Sapel wrote:
Botswana is not Kenya. His birth certificate is legit. If you saw him at the World Junior Championships where he won Gold you would have thought he was 16.
what this guy? 16? hahahahahahaha
https://media.aws.iaaf.org/media/LargeL/2bfa4a07-7ee4-47df-9796-c9afa9242b47.jpg?v=-862740208
Hahahahaha yes, African teenagers run much faster than you ever have.
Breathless wrote:
To be fair to all you guys who are stateside...the junior scene is far less competitive and stacked over here and growing up just down the road from Max (and also third place in that race Max Wharton, who is at college in the States), I can honestly say that the only drug taking in Halifax is copious amounts of heroin and cannabis
Probably the single greatest post ever on this board. I’m from Ireland, but have been to Halifax; I agree, it’s pretty much a dump.
That being said, possession and use of PEDs is completely legal in UK so makes things a little more complicated on that front, but if I was a betting man, so would say he is clean and very talented.
Timetocomeback wrote:
Breathless wrote:
To be fair to all you guys who are stateside...the junior scene is far less competitive and stacked over here and growing up just down the road from Max (and also third place in that race Max Wharton, who is at college in the States), I can honestly say that the only drug taking in Halifax is copious amounts of heroin and cannabis
Probably the single greatest post ever on this board. I’m from Ireland, but have been to Halifax; I agree, it’s pretty much a dump.
That being said, possession and use of PEDs is completely legal in UK so makes things a little more complicated on that front, but if I was a betting man, so would say he is clean and very talented.
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