Just had a text from a UK friend saying Max Burgin (18year old kid) just ran 1:44.8 in an 800m in Manchester. If correct, clearly lockdown in CoVid hasn't had any negative impact on his running.
Just had a text from a UK friend saying Max Burgin (18year old kid) just ran 1:44.8 in an 800m in Manchester. If correct, clearly lockdown in CoVid hasn't had any negative impact on his running.
On his own from the bell. Makes him 2nd behind Brazier this year or close to it. Should have been invited to Monaco.
1:44.75 18 years 3 months.
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
Lol. and then he never ran faster...
joel68 wrote:
Just had a text from a UK friend saying Max Burgin (18year old kid) just ran 1:44.8 in an 800m in Manchester. If correct, clearly lockdown in CoVid hasn't had any negative impact on his running.
Interesting how the Covid crisis has seen so many outstanding performances - despite the limitations on sports over this period. Including the limitations on doping controls.
troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
Well apart from the obvious, Amos PB until mid season 2012 was something like 1:47,.so I wonder what Max Burgin would have ran in that London final?
Coevett wrote:
troller n chief wrote:
Big whoop, Amos ran 1:41.7 at 18 years of age.
Well apart from the obvious, Amos PB until mid season 2012 was something like 1:47,.so I wonder what Max Burgin would have ran in that London final?
When he was 10?
Armstronglivs wrote:
joel68 wrote:
Just had a text from a UK friend saying Max Burgin (18year old kid) just ran 1:44.8 in an 800m in Manchester. If correct, clearly lockdown in CoVid hasn't had any negative impact on his running.
Interesting how the Covid crisis has seen so many outstanding performances - despite the limitations on sports over this period. Including the limitations on doping controls.
It's exactly what you would expect in his progression. He was close to breaking 1:45 last season at 17 but developed some injury niggles towards the end of it.
Looks like it will be Brazier vs Burgin in Tokyo next year.
Armstronglivs wrote:
joel68 wrote:
Just had a text from a UK friend saying Max Burgin (18year old kid) just ran 1:44.8 in an 800m in Manchester. If correct, clearly lockdown in CoVid hasn't had any negative impact on his running.
Interesting how the Covid crisis has seen so many outstanding performances - despite the limitations on sports over this period. Including the limitations on doping controls.
The top lists are very weak this year. Proof that you don't actually follow running.
Coevett wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Interesting how the Covid crisis has seen so many outstanding performances - despite the limitations on sports over this period. Including the limitations on doping controls.
It's exactly what you would expect in his progression. He was close to breaking 1:45 last season at 17 but developed some injury niggles towards the end of it.
Looks like it will be Brazier vs Burgin in Tokyo next year.
Every performance is what we would expect.
Hiyero wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
"18"? And clean as a whistle no doubt.
Well at least we know Burgin is clean as he is white.
I understand the sentiment you’re expressing, but it’s tiresome, trite, and a bit silly. If Burgin was from a largely white country like Bulgaria, many people here would claim he is doping.
It’s not the fact that he’s white and Amos isn’t, it’s the fact that English runners don’t have a long, storied history of doping, while many African countries do. (Botswana is not one of them, as far as I know).
Now, if you want to make the argument that it’s because the English runners are “protected”, go right ahead.
Hardloper wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Interesting how the Covid crisis has seen so many outstanding performances - despite the limitations on sports over this period. Including the limitations on doping controls.
The top lists are very weak this year. Proof that you don't actually follow running.
You don't follow it much yourself, or you would have seen the 9.86 100m by Norman and the threads about Houlihan and Schweizer lopping huge chunks off their pr's, as just a few examples. But - as always - "nothing to see" in a sport with estimated doping by 1 in 3 or more championship-level competitors.
dingochaser wrote:
Hiyero wrote:
Well at least we know Burgin is clean as he is white.
I understand the sentiment you’re expressing, but it’s tiresome, trite, and a bit silly. If Burgin was from a largely white country like Bulgaria, many people here would claim he is doping.
It’s not the fact that he’s white and Amos isn’t, it’s the fact that English runners don’t have a long, storied history of doping, while many African countries do. (Botswana is not one of them, as far as I know).
Now, if you want to make the argument that it’s because the English runners are “protected”, go right ahead.
English runners don’t have a long storied history of doping? Your naïveté proves my point. Please....
Armstronglivs wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
The top lists are very weak this year. Proof that you don't actually follow running.
You don't follow it much yourself, or you would have seen the 9.86 100m by Norman and the threads about Houlihan and Schweizer lopping huge chunks off their pr's, as just a few examples. But - as always - "nothing to see" in a sport with estimated doping by 1 in 3 or more championship-level competitors.
Great point because as we know, clean athletes can't run PRs. They run the exact same time or slower every time they run.
And some unknown Kenyans who have yet to emerge on the world scene.
Hiyero wrote:
dingochaser wrote:
I understand the sentiment you’re expressing, but it’s tiresome, trite, and a bit silly. If Burgin was from a largely white country like Bulgaria, many people here would claim he is doping.
It’s not the fact that he’s white and Amos isn’t, it’s the fact that English runners don’t have a long, storied history of doping, while many African countries do. (Botswana is not one of them, as far as I know).
Now, if you want to make the argument that it’s because the English runners are “protected”, go right ahead.
English runners don’t have a long storied history of doping? Your naïveté proves my point. Please....
Reading comprehension isn’t too high on your list of skills, is it? Like I said at the end of the post, I’m fine with claiming athletes haven’t failed tests because they are protected.
However, the fact remains that very few top end British distance runners have failed doping tests.
I read what you wrote Dingdong but you had the audacity to disparage my post when you are either naive or deceptive and you know damn well that the likes of Coevett have only one litmus test for doping and that is skin color.
Hiyero wrote:
I read what you wrote Dingdong but you had the audacity to disparage my post when you are either naive or deceptive and you know damn well that the likes of Coevett have only one litmus test for doping and that is skin color.
No imbecile, the litmus test is busts, such as 1 in 5 of the fastest Kenyan males of recent years in all events busted, or else confirmed and documented corruption/state sponsored doping, such as the GDR or the EPO for sale in pharmacies in Ethiopia.
And stop playing the race card to cover a real doping problem in Africa. I still create threads here over GDR doping 40 years ago. I supposedly hero worship Seb Coe who is 1/4 Indian and 1/4 Jewish (and I suspect why so many of you loathe him). My favourite 800m runner aside from the Brits and Peter Snell was Cruz. I support Ethan Hussey as much as I do Max Burgin and he is of mixed race I believe. It's shameful to exploit a serious issue like racism only to justify the doping exploitation of poor black Africans by often white managers and promoters making money from them.