RIP D3

DI will be cancelling sports soon.

tracky7 wrote:

Should be full go obviously. Can hang out at Walmart and other places all day but can’t compete in a sport with healthy youth with zero chance of any harm. Do you understand the idiocy here??? Nov 3 can’t come soon enough to end this farce!

I totally understand the idiocy of you hanging out at WalMart all day.

LRCisTerrible wrote:

Time for collegiate subsidized athletics to go bye bye. Make university about university, allow elite athletes and developmentals to work with their own coaches and clubs. Deflate the bubble! Better for the universities, better for students, better for athletes.

I could not agree more! Make everything about getting a degree and making money. Many subjects and all of athletics are just hobbies for 99% of us. In the end taking sports serious at that level leaves a student with nothing. I think activities are great for students, but treating these kids like elite athletes is simply a waste of resources at all levels. University is about a career and gaining specific tools to do a job. Fun and life experience and hobbies are great when you are wealthy.

What happens to professional volleyball, running, (mostly women's) soccer, baseball, etc that are heavily comprised of NCAA collegiate talent? You think they'd just create more minor leagues? They would never be able to sustain themselves.

I really don't see what's so broken with the current collegiate system as long as we just let athletes profit off of their own likeness like the system they are moving towards now.

HRE wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

Then adopt a D III model. Sport is there if the student wants it but, we are no longer requiring taxpayers and other students to subsidize it. Big time football and basketball? Let the NFL and NBA start minor leagues or pay to support their future talent pools.

Taxpayers do not subsidize college sports. Athletic departments fund pretty much all they do with revenue from ticket sales, media contracts, conference revenue sharing, post season play, donations, etc. The only situation where a state's taxpayers are subsidizing an athlete's scholarship is when the athlete is attending a state school in his or her home state in which case taxpayers are paying about half the tuition. But that's the case for any in state student, not just scholarship athletes.

Kim, you left out mandatory student activity fee ($50 per semester years ago). Mandatory even for online students.

Go Waikato.

Does this mean there will be no threads about D3 training habits this year?

Kvothe wrote:

LRCisTerrible wrote:

Time for collegiate subsidized athletics to go bye bye. Make university about university, allow elite athletes and developmentals to work with their own coaches and clubs. Deflate the bubble! Better for the universities, better for students, better for athletes.

Wrong. College is about a lot more than taking some classes and learning some stuff. Sport is an integral part of the university experience for many students. The lessons they learn playing sport help them in class and later down the road in their careers.

I ran D3 XC and played club ice hockey. It does of course vary from school to school, but my experience with club hockey was way more valuable with regards to general life experiences. The players had to deal with budgets, fundraising, travel, scheduling, recruiting, etc. Volunteer coaches and two admins for all club sports oversaw things, but didn't really much beyond that as far as logistics.

Most schools will waive fees if you don't take classes on campus. And athletic fees are such a small part of the overall fees, it won't make a difference. Meal plans are literally 10-15x more expensive. They also pay for stuff like free admission to games and free use of the gym/rec centers, so every student gets use out of it.

If you seriously think that the cost of college would go down if they got rid of sports, instead of just padding the admins' pockets even more, you're insane.

Kim? Who is Kim? The activity fee goes to support all campus activities, newspapers, concerts, speakers. Some does go to the athletic department but not athletic scholarships and massive coaching salaries. And, the comment I. or Kim, was responding to was about what taxpayers are paying for and they are not paying for mandatory student activity fees no matter what those fees support.

loki wrote:

LRCisTerrible wrote:

Time for collegiate subsidized athletics to go bye bye. Make university about university, allow elite athletes and developmentals to work with their own coaches and clubs. Deflate the bubble! Better for the universities, better for students, better for athletes.

I could not agree more! Make everything about getting a degree and making money. Many subjects and all of athletics are just hobbies for 99% of us. In the end taking sports serious at that level leaves a student with nothing. I think activities are great for students, but treating these kids like elite athletes is simply a waste of resources at all levels. University is about a career and gaining specific tools to do a job. Fun and life experience and hobbies are great when you are wealthy.

Not to mention the intense focus on winning college sports has put abusive personality type coaches as superiors to mentally unfit young people. A real toxic mix.

D3... proving that academics are more important than fun and games

D3 isn't going anywhere. It should be the model moving forward & bigger schools should reinvest wasted resources.

D3 is done. Most of the D3 schools will be broke after this semester. I predict that 25% will close within 1 year.

tracky7 wrote:

Should be full go obviously. Can hang out at Walmart and other places all day but can’t compete in a sport with healthy youth with zero chance of any harm. Do you understand the idiocy here??? Nov 3 can’t come soon enough to end this farce!

You are the complete idiot. Zero chance of harm? Uh...dummy....they can spread it to others who die. Over 150K have died in this country.

This thing is way more contageous than you give it credit for. Everyone will catch it within a year. No point in destroying the lives of the young.

OK. How about just ruining yours then?

epi demi wrote:

This thing is way more contageous than you give it credit for. Everyone will catch it within a year. No point in destroying the lives of the young.

Why so many downers? You want to ruin my life and the lives of children? I don't get it.

I like people wrote:

D3 is done. Most of the D3 schools will be broke after this semester. I predict that 25% will close within 1 year.

You obviously don’t know the number of schools at each division. Even if 25% of D3 schools closed (which will not happen in one year) D3 would still have more schools left than D2 has now and would be close to the amount D1 has now.

BenDrankin wrote:Well yeah. No money in DIII and most conferences cancelled already. DI is the cash cow, so they’ll keep putting it off as long as possible.

D1 is the cash cow but only in two sports, Football and Men's Basketball. Everything else cuts into the budget.