Houlihan one mile American record attempt

So has Bowerman confirmed what their athletes are racing tomorrow?

Scratch that, they just announced that the men are a 2k elimination race and the women are all doing an 800.

Men are doing a 2k elimination race (last runner on each lap gets pulled off of the track) and women are now running an 800.

Men race at 6:10PST and women at 6:20PST. Live stream on their Instagram account.

Statgeek wrote:

Scratch that, they just announced that the men are a 2k elimination race and the women are all doing an 800.

Source?

That’s a bit disappointing, to be honest. I’d much rather see them run a mile or a 3k.

Why not a mile? On the women’s side, Houlihan could target the AR while Schweizer and Quigley try to crack 4:20. Have Frerichs pace to 800 in 2:07 and Cranny take them 200m+ further (both easier said than done). As other posters have already noted, Houlihan will have to run 1:57 for this to seem nearly as “cool.” On the men’s side, I’d much rather see Ahmed/Fisher/McGorty shoot for 3:52s or a sub-7:30 3k attempt for Ahmed than a novel 2000m elimination race.

Excuses, excuses wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

It does make a difference but perhaps not as much as you think it does. Only 1% of tests return positives and yet there are expert estimates that put doping as high as 1 in 3 athletes (even 40%) at championship level. Sadly, the best performances remain suspect now.

You're sure pushing hard with the drugs.

Do you happen to be working for big pharma in a paid capacity?

No, I don't. I would just prefer clean sport. But that is long gone. What do you make of the fact that testing catches only 1% of those tested and yet up to 1 in 3 championship athletes have admitted doping in confidential IAAF surveys? How can we trust any top performance now if testing catches very few dopers?

Who hurt you

So, in that devil-take-the -hindmost 2k, who plays the devil? Jerry?

And, who is the first soul he takes? CD?

nikeman wrote:

Men are doing a 2k elimination race (last runner on each lap gets pulled off of the track) and women are now running an 800.

Men race at 6:10PST and women at 6:20PST. Live stream on their Instagram account.

Hopefully, moh will at least salvage a CR (4:59).

paul72 wrote:

no team only wrote:

You boys don't know anything about T&F. ... Slaney's records were all set between 1982-1985. She was banned retroactively to 1997 when she was already in her late 30s. In other words, her records stand.

agree-early 80's era Mary Decker was clean-still the only American woman to win multiple golds at Worlds in distance events at the first world T and F in Helsinki...

Yeah and Ben Johnson in 1987 was clean also.... Unfortunately we have no clue who or who wasn't clean in T&Fs. We can only know who was dirty. I like to think Slaney was clean (and her positive was always a bit sketchy) but we have no way of knowing.

A little know fact is Slaney sent a letter to Budd a few months after the 1984 Olympics in which she apologized for her behavior. Zola accepted the apology and wrote about it in her autobiography. They might mention it in the documentary "The Fall", but there's no way to get a copy of it in the USA.

Statgeek wrote:

Scratch that, they just announced that the men are a 2k elimination race and the women are all doing an 800.

Very boring! Shame that the BTC gals will drop the mile for an 800m. Nowhere near as interesting as a mile/3k.

The men's 2k elimination could be worth watching though.

I agree here . Sometimes the Johnson brothers are the worst offenders on this site

Bouncy Clown Shoes University wrote:

4:11.88 coming up. Her HGH face makes me laugh. The Bowerman 'babes' are getting more sculpted jaw lines than the most alpha Chads. The sky is the limit in a season with no real testing. Its all a charade.

I would just like to respectfully state that I think Houlihan and her teammates are good looking women.

- Reverend Constantine Respectamundo

Reading what you just posted. It says it has to be open to two or more clubs. Doesn't mean that the other clubs need to show up and race. So they could probably get by saying another club was invited.

They are not a club. BTC has a club with the same name but this is the pro group. They are individuals. Record counts whether you guys like it or not.

Disappointed, they're doing an 800. Wonder what the pacing will be. I'm hoping they either recruit a 400m runner in the Oregon area OR scrap the record possibilities and have a male pacemaker. For Shelby to run her best, she needs to be towed through in 58 or faster. If they come through in 59 or 60.x, sure she'll look great with a negative split to run 1:58-59 but after 3:54.99 and 14:23.xx that doesn't really move the needle.

racing all day wrote:

They are not a club. BTC has a club with the same name but this is the pro group. They are individuals. Record counts whether you guys like it or not.

So the Bowerman Track Club isn't a club? Or Bowerman Track Club athletes aren't members of the Bowerman Track Club Club? And the BTC Intrasquad meet isn't an intrasquad meet, nor is it exclusive to BTC, which isn't a club, and they aren't members of.

There is a USATF team which this is not. The BTC professional team is not a club. The meet is an intrasquad of the training group (squad). The records are currently being ratified which proves that they are not part of one club.

nikeman wrote:

Last race of the year for the Bowerman Track Club this Friday and it sounds like they’ll be running the mile among other things. Shelby’s 3:54.99 1500 meter PB is the rough equivalent to 4:12 and change for the mile. The existing American record is 4:16.71 by Mary Slaney and it’s stood for almost 35 years. The world record is 4:12.33 by Sifan Hassan.

I’m predicting 4:14.5 for Houlihan. Thoughts?

Hmmmmm????

Comparing a female to a male running those times is not the same. It's MUCH more difficult for a female.

No offense.

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