rekrunner wrote:
You should go back and see what I said for sure about Aden, rather than adding more wrong statements.
Or, it would be easier to avoid the middle-man and search for articles in "El Pais" that describe what the police found.
I can assure you that I never said "there wasn't any doping going on whatsoever", or anything close to that. I am not changing my tune, as this tune was never mine.
Aden's athletes not testing positive means "we don't know" -- this is, in part, what leads me to say you make statements without knowledge.
Spanish prosecutors have charged him with something like "public endangerment", and not "doping violations".
The statements about vitamins comes, not from me per se, but from witnesses like Torrence, and Spanish police reports.
What you have said and the position you've maintained on the Aden case (Operation Rial) is basically there's nothing much to see there. You've emphatically emphasized the vitamin defense, that no one tested positive there, that the only athlete charged was Baala who was found in possession of EPO., etc. I've never heard you once say that the circumstances look suspicious that Aden was doping his athletes at the camp. Does Dibaba being there have anything to do with you minimizing the circumstances and deflecting suspicion away from Aden? (don't you believe those at the very top don't dope?).
I'm not even sure if you have really researched this case...you're missing some details:
The El País story that references off the prosecutor's affidavit states that the prosecution accuses "Aden of putting the health of his elite athletes at "serious risk" by supplying them with up to eight types of substances and medications to improve their performance."
62 syringes & vials of 3 different kinds of EPO, including 2nd gen Aranesp (darbeportin), and 320 bottles & vials of other injectable drugs, including the corticosteroid Depo-Medrol, were found at the camp.
EPO & corticosteroids = PEDs = medications
https://www.google.com/amp/s/elpais.com/deportes/2018/06/01/actualidad/1527872605_889835.amp.htmlThe statement on the vitamins comes from a RW interview with the late David Torrence, who said when he first trained under Aden in 2014, he was approached and asked if wanted to take some "vitamins." However, after what he observed with some of athlete's remarkable training ability at the camp when he was there and subsequent race results, and learning of the Operation Rial later on in 2016, he reached this conclusion:
"DT: I was 95 percent sure that what was happening in the group was illegal, but there was still 5 percent of me that thought maybe this really is just a vitamin injection. The way I put it in my mind, was like, at some point we didn’t know that most runners are a bit iron-deficient. One person figured it out and everybody was like, “Oh, if I have more iron, I’ll run way better.”
"I thought maybe there was some mixture of vitamins or ratio or amount that was yet to be really well-known to help performance. It was a big stretch of the imagination, but again, that’s the 5 percent that thought maybe there was a chance. I don’t know—I never saw syringes, I never saw any of that stuff, I was just told they were vitamin injections."
"It wasn’t until the raid happened and they did find EPO and illegal substances that I knew that was the case. That is fact. And I thought, “This makes a lot more sense now.”
https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a20804483/u-s-based-runner-describes-his-role-in-doping-raid/And additionally, two of Aden's athletes that he was training were busted for doping; Driouch (ABP) & Traby (EPO).
So, given all this strong evidence - do you still think Aden wasn't doping his athletes at Sabadell?